Re: 64 bit (32 bit compatible) processors.


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*a*m> wrote in message
news:%23x%23MP9mKGHA.1288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Derek wrote:

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Kerry
I have had the computer for nearly two weeks now and have recovered
to the Factory Settings more times than my poor old Granny had hot
dinners. Joking apart, I am not really a computer wiz kid and all I
wanted was a nice new shiny computer which was possible a bit faster
than my old steam driven version. I have been left with one or more
problems, which I could well do without.
Derek

Sometimes you have to do a bit of troubleshooting. If you can't or
won't do it yourself you will have to pay someone else. Complaing
about a problem but not trying to find it's cause will get you
nowhere. At the very least try uninstalling Blackice.


Kerry,
I had already tried uninstalling BlackICE which resolved the problem.
The reason I came to this newsgroup was an attempt to discover the
reason and possible answer to my problem, so far I have not received
much constructive assistance. See my post
news:%23mgCWbkKGHA.3272@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in answer to Malke.
Derek

Derek

I read the other post. It appears you do not understand what DEP is or how
it works. Progams that cause DEP exceptions are doing something wrong.
Just because it used to be fairly common for some compilers to "optimize"
code in a way that now causes a DEP exception doesn't mean that DEP is
something bad or at fault. In a properly written program there is no need
to execute code from an area of memory reserved for data. To allow this is
a major security risk that goes way beyond just buffer overflows. The
links you provided actually say that DEP is a good thing but that older
programs may have problems with DEP enabled, exactly what happened to you.

Several people in this newsgroup tried to help you. The solution to your
problem was pinpointed by several people. Black Ice needs to be updated to
support DEP. If they can't then their technical ability is in doubt. If
they won't then it's time to look for a new program.

Kerry


Kerry
The reason I came to this forum was because I did not understand what was
affecting my new computer. I am not a computer technocrat but I had
discovered that the problem was connected with software written for 32bit
processors and the computer having a 64bit processor. BlackICE (BI) had
recommended that I disable DEP because MS Data Overflow protection was
conflicting with their own protection (I am still in discussion with their
Help Desk). Investigation threw up documents that this problem, or similar,
is known to MS & Intel.
In an earlier post you stated
I have sold quite a few Acer notebooks with that CPU. None of them
has problems like you are experiencing. This leads me to believe
that either you have a defective notebook or more likely something
you have installed is causing a problem. I would backup your data
and restore to the factory settings.
When you sell computers with 64bit processors, do you warn them of the
likely problems with some software?
Personally, when I purchased this computer I was not warned and
unexpectedly, ill-prepared, ran into the Blue Screen problem. I suppose I
could have run back to the vendor but as I have since discovered they were
not aware of these Blue Screen problems with some software .
Derek

How many 'run of the mill' users are aware of this 32/64bit problem?
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