Re: Vote to remove messenger integration

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Vagabond Software wrote:
"Ralph Malph" <ralph.malph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:DA52D3F8-8BFC-4A50-89D2-0B42231FF8D2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I vote that Microsoft remove ALL integration with Messenger, and let it
become a stand alone, use only if you want, to program where absolutely NO
other options or programs depend on it. It is a waist of resources. AOL, ICQ
etc have the decency not to integrate themselves with the rest of my programs
leaving the user to have it running ONLY when they want to use it for
communicating. The LAST thing we need around here is a bunch of the employees
instant messaging all their friends and family instead of working! Duh, what
was Microsoft thinking! There is a useful feature in Outlook, the "Display
Presence Status in the From field". It makes it a little easier to access
scheduling info etc for the sender of an e-mail. This info can be accessed
without messenger by right clicking and waiting a few seconds on the senders
name. However, if messenger is active and the above option is selected, (it
can only be selected if Messenger is active) then there is a nice little
Dot/Button next to the senders name you can click on to get the info. This is
typical of the useless obnoxious wasteful and frustrating integration of
Messenger that Microsoft has so rudely forced upon the user. I vote that
Microsoft immediately issue updates and patches that will remove ALL
integration without disabling any obviously don't need to be linked features
(Such as the one mentioned above) in all current OSes and other products, and
that they keep it out of Vista and future products etc. Who want's to vote
with me.

Ralph Malph


Instant Messaging is an invaluable tool for business. I personally use Trillian Pro for my AOLIM and YAHOO accounts, but stay with the actual Windows Messenger for my MSN account because it supports Remote Assistance. That feature alone has paid for every cup of Starbucks coffee I've had this year.

I remember the hype about removing Internet Explorer from Windows in the late 90s and what a short-sighted suggestion it was. How was I supposed to download updated drivers for various hardware? How was I supposed to download Netscape once they were forced to make it a free browser once again? How was I supposed to visit a manufacturer's support site without an integrated browser?

The excuses you give in no way justify the action of integrating a browser into the kernel of the OS. Every flavor I can think of of Linux includes a choice of browsers you can use with your OS installation thereby allowing any access to the web you need (drivers, software, etc.). However, they are installed as stand alone 3rd party programs that are not integrated into the kernel. Windows would have been better if the Browser was not integrated into the kernel.

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capitan


The most frustrating thing I dealt with last year was a company that had no policy explicitly prohibiting the use of instant messengers, but a napoleonic System Administrator that took it upon herself to attempt port blocking and DNS redirection to thwart the use of messengers. All those steps are useless, of course. However, what was frustrating is that the Sharepoint Intranet was barely funcitonal. Dynamic Remote Desktop to the Client Workstations didn't work more often than it did, and the fact that gawd-knows how many useless hours were wasted trying to thwart instant messaging in the absence of a company policy is reprehensible.

carl


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