Re: SATA & IDE in same computer
- From: "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" <cquirkenews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:16:21 +0200
On 26 Jan 2006 05:52:05 -0800, "RangeRover 11"
>Bob I, Cquirke, or anybody,
Hi!
>I would appreciate help on a S-ata issue that no one seems to get. I am
>a tech and I ALLOWED the techs at the shop where I got my PC to
>assemble it.
>I have an ASUS A8N-Sli (not deluxe)
>Two Maxtor 200gb S-ata HDD's
>AMD X2 4200+
>4X's 512 Corsair ValueSelect (mistake I know)
Why a mistake?
>The Nvidia Raid controller that is built in the MoBo seems
>to show a Healthy Raid 0 of 200gb
>In the BIOS the drive config is as follows:
>1-4 master/Slave IDE
>1-4 S-ata
>ALL enabled
>No HDD's are recognized. It's as if I had no drives installed.
OK, I guess that's because from the BIOS's perspective of looking
through the chipset, there are no HDs present - that's assuming the
nVidia RAID is a separate chipset added by Asus.
Google(A8N-Sli) ... oooh, studly! <swoon>
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=a8nsli&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=98&type=expert
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nForce4 Storage:
- 4 x SATA 3Gb/s
- 2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
- NVRAID : RAID0, RAID1, RAID 0+1 and JBOD span cross SATA and PATA
Silicon Image 3114R RAID controller:
- 4 x Serial ATA with RAID0, 1, 0+1, 5 (RAID 5 software patch
available, no WHQL)
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Not clear whether the RAID is part of nVidia or is an add-on (e.g.
Silicon Image) that BIOS doesn't "see".
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/38623/
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Harddisks
Any Serial-Ata harddisk would do fine, we?re pretty fond of Hitachi
ourselves and have used up to two 250GB 7K250 discs in RAID and that
performed admirably. Make sure these are connected to the NForce 4
chipset RAID controller though. More on that later, in the section
about setting your drives up properly.
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Nit-picks on that article:
- why automatic preference for Pro over Home?
- need to warn on < SP1 installation if HDs > 137G
>>From what I understood, the BIOS should automatically detect the S-ata
>drives (so says ASUS)
>I think that maybe the techs just didn't configure the BIOS correctly
>or set it up in the correct order. I am surprized that it boots. When I
>go into the BIOS, I would expect to see my drives and not to see all
>drives/channels enabled.
If it boots, then I'd worry less about what BIOS sees. If you do a
diskette of CD boot, can you see the physical HDs?
Often RAID is implimented as an add-on, often with its own BIOS
management (e.g. "press ^&$%* to configure RAID" on POST, etc. which
leads off to this separate BIOS or BIOS extension). If this is the
case, it may be appropriate not to see the HDs in BIOS; in fact, it
may mean trouble if they are visible in both.
>I am thinking about tearing it down and starting over, but I
>don't want to mess it up.
Yep. If it works, I wouldn't... what I might do is google for forums
and FAQs on these issues.
>Also, the 4gb of RAM is set to 333MhZ and I want it at 400., that's why
>I got DDR400 in the first place...
That's odd. Check the rest of the timings to ensure there isn't
overclocking in da house (as that often relies on lamering other
settings to get it to "work"), and what the CPU's capabilities are.
Test overnight (if not over-weekend) in MemTest86 after changes,
before allowing Windows to boot.
>I know the MoBo will default to 333 from factory for stability with
>some memory modules. The problem is that it's set to 333, all following
>config is Auto and trying to change it to 400 doesn't seem to change
>anyhthing once inide Windows and is benchmarked.
I'd check those DIMMs. I'm surprised such a modern chipset is still
using old DDR, I'd have thought it would be DD2 (faster, cheaper, more
future esp. for higher capacities) by now... DDR2 goes naturally with
PCI Express, though there was a few months when DDR2 was so costly
that there was a demand for PCI Express + DDR.
>Please give advice if this makes any sense and what I ca do about the
>mem settings which won't change if it is put to 400 and Auto. It just
>says 400 with all other variables the same and seems to still be
>running at 333.
Use SIMMtester's SPD reader to query the DIMMs, i.e. to see whether
they really are DDR400 as I'd expect them to be. Check out other
settings, in case something like forcing faster CAS timings etc. is
causing a downshift to keep things working.
>I can be more specific if anyone will kindly post, just running off to
>fix someone else's PC while I am a little stumped by mine.
You may want to take this to the hardware forums - it's not an OS
issue per se, and there are sharper hardware minds over there.
>P.S. I would like a dual boot system but don't see how that is possible
>with Raid 0 (assuming no third party software is involved)
That's another battle :-/
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