Re: Reboot several times a day
- From: Leland Sheppard <LelandSheppard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:42:02 -0800
Hi Gerry,
Thanks for the additional info. To a great extent it sounds like you do
what I do with your system. Question would be then how did you end up with
everything signed? Did you do a fresh install of XP with a fresh copy you
just recently bought or ???
Here are the info results for 6 HDs from HDTune:
HD Tune: WDC WD1200JB-75CRA0 Information
Firmware version : 16.06V16
Serial number : WD-WMA8C4672464
Capacity : 111.8 GB (~120.0 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-5
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : no
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : no
Firmware Upgradable : yes
Partition : 1
Drive letter : C:\
Label : HD12001
Capacity : 114431 MB
Usage : 28.21%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes
HD Tune: WDC WD1200JB-32FUA0 Information
Firmware version : 15.05R15
Serial number : WD-WMAES1314305
Capacity : 111.8 GB (~120.0 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-6
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes
Partition : 1
Drive letter : D:\
Label : HD12002
Capacity : 114470 MB
Usage : 25.64%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No
HD Tune: WDC WD2500JB-00GVA0 Information
Firmware version : 08.02D08
Serial number : WD-WCAL73377751
Capacity : 232.9 GB (~250.1 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-6
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes
Partition : 1
Drive letter : G:\
Label : HD25002
Capacity : 238472 MB
Usage : 0.03%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No
HD Tune: WDC WD2500JB-00GVA0 Information
Firmware version : 08.02D08
Serial number : WD-WCAL73379779
Capacity : 232.9 GB (~250.1 GB)
Buffer size : 8192 KB
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-6
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : yes
Partition : 1
Drive letter : E:\
Label : HD25001
Capacity : 238472 MB
Usage : 0.03%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : No
HD Tune: WDC WD400BB-60CJA0 Information
Firmware version : 16.0
Serial number :
Capacity : 37.3 GB (~40.0 GB)
Buffer size : 0 KB
Standard :
Supported mode :
Current mode :
S.M.A.R.T : no
48-bit Address : no
Read Look-Ahead : no
Write Cache : no
Host Protected Area : no
Device Configuration Overlay : no
Automatic Acoustic Management: no
Power Management : no
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : no
Firmware Upgradable : no
Partition : 1
Drive letter : I:\
Label : HD04001
Capacity : 38162 MB
Usage : 27.16%
Type : FAT32
Bootable : Yes
HD Tune: WDC WD400BB-60CJA0 Information
Firmware version : 16.0
Serial number :
Capacity : 37.3 GB (~40.0 GB)
Buffer size : 0 KB
Standard :
Supported mode :
Current mode :
S.M.A.R.T : no
48-bit Address : no
Read Look-Ahead : no
Write Cache : no
Host Protected Area : no
Device Configuration Overlay : no
Automatic Acoustic Management: no
Power Management : no
Advanced Power Management : no
Power-up in Standby : no
Security Mode : no
Firmware Upgradable : no
Partition : 1
Drive letter : L:\
Label : HD04002
Capacity : 38162 MB
Usage : 26.58%
Type : FAT32
Bootable : No
I will check out the other links.
Thanks again.
--
Leland
"Gerry Cornell" wrote:
> Leland
>
> Resolving driver problems without an error report pin pointing the driver
> is always going to be difficult. There are various ways the task can be
> tackled but some need technical interpretation skills most of us do not
> have.
>
> I was hopeful that unsigned drivers might shorten the list for you but that
> was
> not to be.
>
> My system was rebuilt early in December 2005 by replacing the motherboard,
> memory, power supply, CD drive and one of two hard drives. There remain
> components from my earlier circa 2000 computer. All peripherals, save for
> a colour printer, are from the earlier system but all are no older than
> 2000.
> I have systematically replaced peripherals over the years. I suspect that
> were I to replace my HP Scanjet 4300C and my Norton Winfax Pro 10
> software I might be down to two unsigned drivers.
>
> It can be helpful to install software to name precisely the hardware on
> your system. You need this information when looking for third party drivers.
> I ignore offers of drivers from the "driver web sites" and always go for
> manufacturers sites.
>
> This freeware programme is excellent for getting information about your
> computer:
> Everest Home Edition (freeware)
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
>
> Tip: To copy select Report, Quick Report, Plain Text, highlight required
> text, right click and select copy. However, whilst this is fine for
> posting small amounts of information into newsgroup messages
> longer reports will irritate other newsgroup subscribers.
>
> Your printer drivers:
> http://snipurl.com/lsha
>
> --
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
>
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> "Leland Sheppard" <LelandSheppard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:0B152A31-DFF0-4803-8699-AB7B0C0921E5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Hi Gerry,
> >
> > I will try HD tune and post the results.
> >
> > I have 4 internal IDE drives and 2 external on USB. I have had 3
> > different
> > raid setups on 2 different controllers but they are all out of the system
> > now. I was using either RAID 0 or 1; one controller on the MB the other
> > was
> > PCI based. 2 of the IDE drives are on the MB controller, 2 are on a
> > Promise
> > PCI-based IDE controller. The two USB HDs are usually turned off.
> >
> > The older programs are all applications and none of them have ever been
> > running when the error occurred. All of the drivers came with XP or were
> > downloaded from MS. In fact, on a number of occasions, the error has
> > occurred after bootup when I have run nothing. I turned on the system,
> > walked away, and at some point it had the error and rebooted - I had done
> > nothing except turn on the switch.
> >
> > Whatever this is, it is something relatively new. I ran XP for the first
> > two years with very few problems.
> >
> > I went through EVERY device in the device manager last night and clicked
> > on
> > update driver. Only one found an update. I have an HP PSC750XI
> > (printer/scanner/copier - USB attached) and the "new" driver was also
> > unsigned, downloaded from MS and is on the system now. I also updated the
> > BIOS just in case that has had anything to do with what has been
> > happening.
> >
> > I am very curious about the date of your system, did you build it, etc.
> > Your thousands of signed files is amazing to me since most of the unsigned
> > files I have came from MS. Many of them are dated 2001. Yours must be
> > later
> > than that but I'm curious how much later.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Leland
> >
> >
> > "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
> >
> >> Leland
> >>
> >> Running programmes written long before the introduction of Windows XP
> >> does raise all kinds of issues. These links may help:
> >>
> >> How to Troubleshoot 16-Bit Windows Programs in Windows XP
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314495
> >>
> >> Error message when you install or start an MS-DOS or 16-bit Windows-based
> >> program
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767&Product=winxp
> >>
> >> Run Older Programs on Windows XP
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/appcompat.mspx
> >>
> >> How to use the Program Compatibility Wizard in Windows XP
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301911
> >>
> >> Note the references to drivers.
> >>
> >> Some users running older programmes run dual boot systems. However,
> >> setting
> >> up a
> >> dual boot system needs to have the older operating system installed
> >> before
> >> XP. It
> >> makes for a complicated system and having tried it for a time I found the
> >> trouble not
> >> worth the gain.
> >>
> >> I would consider whether the operations carried out on older programmes
> >> could be
> >> migrated to programmes and versions intended for use with Windows XP.
> >>
> >> How many hard drives are installed? Are any removable / external? Are you
> >> using
> >> RAID?
> >>
> >> Try HD Tune (freeware). Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> >> http://www.hdtune.com/
> >>
> >> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on C:\ under Drive letter
> >> and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
> >> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
> >>
> >> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
> >> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
> >>
> >> Also do a full surface scan with HD Tune.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >>
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >> "Leland Sheppard" <LelandSheppard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> message news:29D890E6-9E0F-4513-8131-EB252AE9F6DA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Hi Gerry,
> >> >
> >> > Wow. That's a pretty amazing difference! Any idea why that would be?
> >> > I
> >> > do
> >> > have some very old applications running including a Windows 3.1 version
> >> > of
> >> > Quattro Pro, compiled BASIC programs I wrote years ago, MS PDS 7.1
> >> > BASIC
> >> > development system (DOS application), etc.
> >> >
> >> > My machine is about 3 years old. I installed XP Home just over 2 years
> >> > ago.
> >> > I had originally installed XP over 98SE and that didn't work very well.
> >> > So
> >> > I did a from-scratch, clean install of XP on new hard drives and
> >> > reinstalled
> >> > all my software (at great expense to the management).
> >> >
> >> > I installed SP2 about a year ago, I think, and began having these
> >> > problems
> >> > about 6 months ago. I have replaced everything except the motherboard
> >> > and
> >> > CPU in this machine in an attempt to get rid of these errors. I have
> >> > even
> >> > swapped the power supply in the tower case thinking I might be running
> >> > on
> >> > the
> >> > edge because of all of the devices installed.
> >> >
> >> > Regarding other errors in event viewer, I discovered something I had
> >> > not
> >> > seen before. I am getting groups of 10 to 20 errors at a time on a
> >> > hard
> >> > disk. Over the past 3 weeks, the errors have moved from one disk to
> >> > another
> >> > as far as the id in the event viewer is concerned. I've copied one of
> >> > them
> >> > here for you to see:
> >> >
> >> > Event Type: Error
> >> > Event Source: Disk
> >> > Event Category: None
> >> > Event ID: 15
> >> > Date: 12/27/2005
> >> > Time: 7:35:07 PM
> >> > User: N/A
> >> > Computer: LELAND-0W5ECG4U
> >> > Description:
> >> > The device, \Device\Harddisk3\D, is not ready for access yet.
> >> >
> >> > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> >> > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> >> > Data:
> >> > 0000: 00 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...¶.
> >> > 0008: 00 00 00 00 0f 00 04 c0 .......À
> >> > 0010: 04 01 00 00 9d 00 00 c0 ......À
> >> > 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> >> > 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> >> > 0028: 8f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .......
> >> > 0030: ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
> >> > 0038: 40 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 @.......
> >> > 0040: 02 20 06 12 48 01 20 00 . ..H. .
> >> > 0048: c0 00 00 00 3c 00 00 00 À...<...
> >> > 0050: 20 54 e9 82 00 17 eb 82 Té,..ë,
> >> > 0058: 00 00 00 00 20 cf 16 83 .... Ï.f
> >> > 0060: 00 10 58 ba 00 00 00 00 ..Xº....
> >> > 0068: 1a 00 1c 00 c0 00 00 00 ....À...
> >> > 0070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> >> > 0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> >> > 0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> >> > 0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> >> >
> >> > I have seen these same errors for harddisk2, harddisk3 and harddisk4 in
> >> > the
> >> > event viewer. I never see anything externally; didn't know they were
> >> > happening until today. All my harddrives (4 IDE and 2 USB) are just
> >> > fine
> >> > as
> >> > far as I can tell.
> >> >
> >> > Sometimes these errors occur just before one of the crashes, sometimes
> >> > they
> >> > occur and there is no crash so I'm not sure they are related to the
> >> > crashes.
> >> >
> >> > I am going to go through the device manager and try an 'update driver'
> >> > for
> >> > each device on my system tonight. Windows update doesn't indicate that
> >> > there
> >> > is anything needed but maybe I will find something new in that effort.
> >> > What
> >> > do you think? Is there a different place I should be looking for
> >> > device
> >> > drivers?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again for your continuing efforts.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Leland
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Leland
> >> >>
> >> >> No you've come up with an unexpected and unhelpful result.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is illustrated by the result on my own machine.
> >> >>
> >> >> Found: 3345 Signed: 2346 Unsigned: 10 Files not scanned: 989
> >> >>
> >> >> which compares to yours
> >> >>
> >> >> Found: 3239 Signed: 42 Unsigned: 2231 Files not scanned: 96
> >> >>
> >> >> How old is your machine?
> >> >>
> >> >> Are there any other Warning or Error Reports in Event Viewer?
> >> >>
> >> >> Was the machine ever free of these errors?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gerry
> >> >> ~~~~
> >> >> FCA
> >> >> Stourport, England
> >> >>
> >> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Leland Sheppard" <LelandSheppard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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