Re: Copy and swap hard drive

See below.


"Greg Maxey" <gmaxey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ukgVT4pFGHA.216@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Pegasus,
>
> Thanks for your offer to help. Both drive are SATA drives. As I
mentioned
> the smaller, older drive is in Disk 0 position.
>
> >After cloning the source drive, you make the target disk the primary
master
> >disk.
>
> I don't know a) what that means. b) how to do it.

I was thinking of IDE disks. SATA disks do not use
the "primary/secondary" concept.

> Do you mean that here is where I physically move the cable? I want the
> larger disk to ultimately be the Disk 0 disk.

Yes, make the larger disk Disk0.

> I worry about the sound card, because the last time I tried to boot in
> Windows with just the new drive it hung at the Windows start up screen.
It
> is lookin for something.

I don't think it hung because of the sound card - it probably
hung right after dealing with the sound card. If it's a card
rather than a motherboard-integrated sound adapter then
you can remove it during the initial installation.

> I appreciate your help, but I can't go forward without more detailed
> intstructions.
>
> Remember folks I alreadys freely admitted ignorance in this area. So
> please, if you can give me steps like: Make the cloned disk the primary
> disk by doing:
>
> a.
> b
> c
> d
> etc.
>
> Thanks

Seeing that Anna has already produced an a,b,c guide, I won't
attempt to reinvent the wheel.


>
> --
> Greg Maxey/Word MVP
> See:
> http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
> For some helpful tips using Word.
>
>
> Pegasus wrote:
> > Seeing that Anna does not seem to be around, I'll try to
> > answer your questions - see below.
> >
> >
> > "Greg Maxey" <gmaxey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:eJWeRhmFGHA.1260@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Anna/Pegasus
> >>
> >> I am replying to you both from one place. I will also apologize for
> >> being stupid in this arena.
> >>
> >> Here is the current situation Drive 0 contains a 160G drive with:
> >> C: the system drive
> >> D: Programs
> >> E: Data
> >> F: Swap Files
> >>
> >> Drive 1 Contains a 250G drive with:
> >> J: exact copy of C: with MBR
> >> K: exact copy of D:
> >> L: exact copy of E:
> >> M: exact copy of F;
> >>
> >> End state that I want:
> >>
> >> Drive 0 Contains the larger 250G drive with the following partitions:
> >> C:
> >> D:
> >> E:
> >> F:
> >>
> >> I then want to but the old smaller drive back in the system and
> >> remame its partition letters.
> >>
> >> I was at this same state earlier and I did this:
> >> I did boot the machine immediately after the copying. When I did,
> >> windows booted up normally expect for ChkDsk scanned the drive J;
> >> I then removed the smaller drive in 0 and moved the larger drive to
> >> 0. I left the smaller drive out of the system.
> >> I tried to boot the machine and it froze at the windows welcome
> >> screen. I think I know why it did this now.
> >> I next tried to boot with the WindowsXP disk to do a repair. While
> >> doing so, the repair process asked for a file on C:\something or
> >> another and then it froze. It was my sound card driver I think and
> >> I think it is why windows froze on the welcome screen.
> >>
> >> At this point I realized that I was in deep doodoo. Fortunately I
> >> was able to but the old smaller drive back in the system and reboot.
> >> I figure that the attempted repair had boogered up my copy of C:\ on
> >> the new larger drive, so I have recreated my exact copy and ready
> >> for the next step.
> >>
> >> Anna, unfortunately I no longer have your 13 steps available.
> >>
> >> I understand now that I am not to boot with both disks in the system
> >> after making the copy. However, I am not sure exactly what it is
> >> that I do need to do. Here are some quesitions:
> >>
> >> Anna you say:
> >>
> >> Immediately following the cloning operation and the shutdown of your
> >> machine, disconnect your source drive and
> >> boot ONLY to the newly-cloned drive (as indicated in step 13.
> >> above). DO NOT BOOT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CLONING OPERATION WITH
> >> BOTH DRIVES CONNECTED.
> >>
> >> 1. When I disconnect the source drive, do I move the cloned or
> >> copied drive cable to the Disk 0 position now or later?
> >
> > After cloning the source drive, you make the target
> > disk the primary master disk.
> >
> >> 2. When I do boot with the source drive removed, I know from the
> >> exerience earlier that Windows is going to be looking for my Sound
> >> Card Driver with a pointer looking in drive C:\.
> >
> > No need to worry about a sound card driver at this stage.
> >
> >> Will I need to first perform the fixmbr
> >> procedure that Pegasus mentions
> >
> > Fixmbr is a repair step. You only perform it if the machine
> > fails to boot.
> >
> >> or will the simple act of rebooting with
> >> just the cloned drive intalled result in fixing the mbr.
> >
> > No. Rebooting with the cloned drive will not do what fixmbr does.
> >
> >> 3. When I am up and running with the new larger drive, how do I
> >> then change its drive letters to C:, D:, E:, and F? When that is
> >> done, is there another process to fixmbr?
> >
> > Once you're up and running, run diskmgmt.msc via Start / Run,
> > then use it to fix your drive letters.
> >
> >> 4. When I do get the new drive partition renamed, what happens when
> >> I put the old drive back in? I will have two drive with the same
> >> partition labels. How to I correct that.
> >
> > There is no problem in reconnecting the old disk after the
> > first successful boot with the new disk. It would be a good
> > idea to relabel your drives to avoid confusion. Just right-click
> > them in My Computer.
> >
> >> Anna I will try search google groups for your earlier post, but I am
> >> afraid I need more detailed help from one of your experts here
> >> before I brave the deep water again.
> >
> > I have seen a few posts from people who used Ghost where
> > the logon process looped continuously: Log on, brief desktop,
> > back to the logon prompt. This is a well-understood problem
> > that is not too hard to fix.
> >
> >> --
> >> Greg Maxey/Word MVP
> >> See:
> >> http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
> >> For some helpful tips using Word.
> >>
> >>
> >> Greg Maxey wrote:
> >>> I have a 160G hard drive in the disk 0 position of my controller. I
> >>> bought a 250G hard drive that I want to make my primary drive (in
> >>> disk 0 postion) and move the 160G to drive position 1 to use for
> >>> storing backups, images, etc.
> >>>
> >>> The current 160G drive has four partitions. System C:, Programs D:,
> >>> Data E:, and Swap File F:,
> >>>
> >>> Using Norton Ghost I copied C:, D:, E: and F;< to the 250G drive
> >>> that
> >>> I put in Disk 1 position temporarilly. Now I have an exact copy of
> >>> the small disk on the larger disk. This part was easy (an perhaps a
> >>> complete waste of time).
> >>>
> >>> The 250G drive now has four partitions J:, K:, L:, and M: I set J:
> >>> to be an active drive and loaded the Master Boot Record files to it.
> >>>
> >>> Now I am in a log jam. How do I change the drive letters on the
> >>> larger drive that I want to be primary to and how do I get XP to
> >>> boot up on the new drive (I want it in Position 0 ultimately).
> >>>
> >>> I tried taking the smaller drive out of the system and moving the
> >>> new larger drive to position 0 and then rebooting the machine. I
> >>> thought that once booted that I could change the drive letters.
> >>> For some reason WindowsXP froze on the welcome screen. I even
> >>> tried to repair the installation on the new drive but the
> >>> reinstallation froze at the 27 minute mark.
> >>> Can anyone direct me to how to achieve this. Thanks.
>
>


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