Re: cquirke - What about "Quick Poll: What do you use Safe Mode for?" ?

Thanks for the explanation.

"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" <cquirkenews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:33:14 -0500, "Marianne B."
>
> >hey cquirke - I don't remember ever seeing your explanation
> >as to why you posted:
>
> >Quick Poll: What do you use Safe Mode for?
>
> >back in December of last year.
>
> >Last thing I can find from you about this on Google is:
>
> >" Oh boy, are we gonna have fun!
> >For now, I'm just asking. I'll be telling later ;-) "
>
> >So what's the story? Did I miss your follow-ups?
> >I'm really curious about what you were getting at.
>
> heh heh... sorry to tease for so long!
>
> What happened was, debate was raging on whether Safe Mode was safe
> enough for malware intervention. The bottom line; for malware, Safe
> Mode isn't (always safe enough).
>
> What happened next was that Safe Mode's unsafety was defended on the
> basis that Safe Mode was never intended to be malware-safe.
>
> That prompted a number of questions, such as "if Safe Mode is not the
> recommended platform for malware detection and cleanup, then what is?"
>
> Because the need to scan for malware is huge, not only to manage
> malware where it is known to be present, but to exclude it as a factor
> in every single case where a poorly-delineated problem has to be
> troubleshot. IMO it should be SOP before doing anything else on an
> unknown PC, such as adding new hardware or software to it.
>
> Only the most abysmal huge OEM would routinely wipe and re-install
> everything as a standard first response to any sort of ill-defined
> problem, as a way to "exclude malware". Then again, this is the main
> sort of OEM MS has to interact with, so they may be taking this nadir
> as the "darkness standard" on such matters?
>
>
> Anyway, at one time I had various folks from a large software vendor
> maintaining with blue-eyed innocence that really, no-one ever
> suggested Safe Mode had any role in malware management, so why
> complain that it is insufficiently suited for such purpose?
>
> That was a bit of a jaw-dropper, given that the advice to scan and
> manage malware from Safe Mode is ubiquitous across all forums where
> such topics arise. Right now, there will be a number of such threads,
> including in this newsgroup.
>
> So, how did everyone get this so wrong for so many years, and how did
> this large software vendor not notice for all this time?
>
> Hence the poll: I wanted to see whether folks out there were
> considering malware management as a major purpose of Safe Mode.
>
>
>
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