Re: howto network printers without NetBIOS

Tony wrote:
> I have two XP-Pro-SP2 computers. I want
> to share one's printer with the other.
>
> Problem: the network is TCP/IP only
> and NetBIOS is disabled (blocked).
>
> Any tips or suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated!

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> What makes you think you cannot use File and Printer sharing?
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/printershare.mspx

Tony wrote:
> I did not state the reasons why: they are long and boring and
> will only distract from the question. Your link only applies
> if NetBIOS is allowed on the network. But, I appreciate the input.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Ah - you needed to clarify your meaning of NetBIOS.
> You mean you have gone in and "Disabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP" in the
> Advanced network settings. Not that you thought you had to use NWLINK
> NetBIOS to share printers...?
>
> Might I suggest reading this to make sure you wanted to do that?
> http://cable-dsl.home.att.net/netbios.htm
> and
> http://channels.lockergnome.com/it/archives/20050413_windows_file_sharing_facing_the_mystery.phtml
>
> Keying in on things like:
> "File and Print Sharing is a completely different beast than NetBIOS or
> NetBIOS over TCP/IP. To be clear, you can disable the latter and still use
> the former if you have it bound to a protocol such as Netbeui. If you
> disable File and Print Sharing, however, then it doesn't matter what
> transport gets you to the box, you still won't be able to access shares on
> it."
>
> So - in general - your answer is to use another protocol.

Tony wrote:
> By "TCP/IP only", I mean no other protocols are
> allowed over the wire. By "NetBIOS is disabled
> (blocked)", I mean TCP/UDP ports 137 through 139
> are blocked. (It doesn't matter what I do in the
> "Advanced" tab.)

Kerry Brown wrote:
> Not sure if it'll print without netbios but you can connect to a
> printer with the ip address. i.e. \\192.168.1.1\printer_name

Tony wrote:
> I was thinking along those lines too. I used the
> print sharing for UNIX (LPD/LPR), but had only
> managed to get command line LPR to work. So, I
> was hoping to find if someone else had come up with
> a cleaver way of doing it.

Kerry Brown wrote:
> I would try adding a network printer then just type in the path to the
> printer as in the above example.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Won't work - they are blocking the ports needed to do TCP/IP printer
> sharing (and file sharing) and I guess the OP doesn't want to open them or
> cannot. So printing over the normal TCP ports is out of the question.
>
> Installing a different protocol (and they state they cannot - or that it
> is not allowed) is one option if the OP does not want to allow (or cannot
> allow) Print Sharing (the port(s) for that. over TCP/IP.
>
> Doesn't matter if you know the IP of the machine or not if the ports are
> closed either by the router (which would be unusual at best) or on the
> machine (maybe by group policy and that is why the OP cannot do this?)
>
> Tony,
>
> Are these your machines on a private network or "work" machines on a
> work-managed network?

Kerry Brown wrote:
> Your right, re-reading the thread I see I missed that. I thought they had
> only disabled NETBIOS over TCP/IP. If port 80 is not blocked they could
> try setting up ipp printing. I haven't set it up except for once in a
> classroom but it might work :-)
>
> I think it's time for the OP to go through company channels and have the
> IT department set it up.

Frank wrote:
> If you are networked properly (default is usually ok).
> start > printers and faxes > add printer >
> [X] A network printer, or a printer attached to another computer.

Frank,

You may need to re-read the thread in its entirety (included above) to see
that this network is either not default or managed outside of the OPs
control. At this point I cannot say if this is a "business managed" network
or not - but most signs point to it. I personally assume this is a pair of
business managed computers (group policy managed) that have the firewall
enabled by the domain and do not allow file/printer sharing between them.
The other option is that the OP may have gone a bit overboard on the
security and is unwilling to bend on that. (They could just allow for
printer sharing if they like.)

Kerry gave a decent option with the last response - that might give the OP a
work around - but may not depending on the actual reason for the situation
they find themself in.

If you have any further suggestions - I know I would like to see them - I
enjoyed researching for this thread.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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