Re: howto network printers without NetBIOS

Tony wrote:
> I have two XP-Pro-SP2 computers. I want
> to share one's printer with the other.
>
> Problem: the network is TCP/IP only
> and NetBIOS is disabled (blocked).
>
> Any tips or suggestions would be greatly
>appreciated!

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> What makes you think you cannot use File and Printer sharing?
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/printershare.mspx

Tony wrote:
> I did not state the reasons why: they are long and boring and
> will only distract from the question. Your link only applies
> if NetBIOS is allowed on the network. But, I appreciate the input.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Ah - you needed to clarify your meaning of NetBIOS.
> You mean you have gone in and "Disabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP" in the
> Advanced network settings. Not that you thought you had to use NWLINK
> NetBIOS to share printers...?
>
> Might I suggest reading this to make sure you wanted to do that?
> http://cable-dsl.home.att.net/netbios.htm
> and
> http://channels.lockergnome.com/it/archives/20050413_windows_file_sharing_facing_the_mystery.phtml
>
> Keying in on things like:
> "File and Print Sharing is a completely different beast than NetBIOS or
> NetBIOS over TCP/IP. To be clear, you can disable the latter and still use
> the former if you have it bound to a protocol such as Netbeui. If you
> disable File and Print Sharing, however, then it doesn't matter what
> transport gets you to the box, you still won't be able to access shares on
> it."
>
> So - in general - your answer is to use another protocol.

Tony wrote:
> By "TCP/IP only", I mean no other protocols are
> allowed over the wire. By "NetBIOS is disabled
> (blocked)", I mean TCP/UDP ports 137 through 139
> are blocked. (It doesn't matter what I do in the
> "Advanced" tab.)

Kerry Brown wrote:
> Not sure if it'll print without netbios but you can connect to a
> printer with the ip address. i.e. \\192.168.1.1\printer_name

Tony wrote:
> I was thinking along those lines too. I used the
> print sharing for UNIX (LPD/LPR), but had only
> managed to get command line LPR to work. So, I
> was hoping to find if someone else had come up with
> a cleaver way of doing it.

Kerry Brown wrote:
> I would try adding a network printer then just type in the path to the
> printer as in the above example.

Won't work - they are blocking the ports needed to do TCP/IP printer sharing
(and file sharing) and I guess the OP doesn't want to open them or cannot.
So printing over the normal TCP ports is out of the question.

Installing a different protocol (and they state they cannot - or that it is
not allowed) is one option if the OP does not want to allow (or cannot
allow) Print Sharing (the port(s) for that. over TCP/IP.

Doesn't matter if you know the IP of the machine or not if the ports are
closed either by the router (which would be unusual at best) or on the
machine (maybe by group policy and that is why the OP cannot do this?)

Tony,

Are these your machines on a private network or "work" machines on a
work-managed network?

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