Re: Sorry to have to ask this.
- From: "Asher_N" <compguy666@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 06:18:42 -0800
John Corliss <jcorliss@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:11pg5ll9rpvac15@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>>> After four years of holding out, I have finally caved in and
>>> purchased the XP Home Edition with SP2. I could have gotten XP with
>>> this system, but I got ME instead and it's served me well. However,
>>> lately too much software is being written so that it won't work in
>>> ME. I've backed up all of my data and will be going for a fresh
>>> install of the OS (formatting and installing).
>>> And now I'm faced with the old (I suppose to you folks in this
>>> group) dilemma of whether or not to go with NTFS or stick with
>>> FAT32.
>>
>> Personally, I wouldn't even consider using FAT32 when NTFS is an
>> option. FAT32 has no security capabilities, no compression
>> capabilities, no fault tolerance, and a lot of wasted hard drive
>> space on volumes larger than 8 Gb in size. But your computing needs
>> may vary, and there is no hard and fast answer.
>> To answer your questions without getting too technical is
>> difficult,
>> but has been handled quite well by the late Alex Nichol in the
>> article here:
>>
>> FAT & NTFS File Systems in Windows XP http://www.aumha.org/a/ntfs.htm
>>
>> Somewhat more technical information is here:
>> Limitations of the FAT32 File System in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=kb;en-us;Q314463
>>
>> Choosing Between File Systems
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/pro
>> dtechnol/winntas/tips/techrep/filesyst.asp
>> > NTFS file system http://www.digit-life.com/articles/ntfs/
>
> Well, there is also this one:
>
> http://cquirke.mvps.org/ntfs.htm
>
>>> I've heard that Scandisk won't work with NTFS ....
>>
>> A moot point. WinXP does not have a program called "Scandisk,"
>> as
>> this was a Win9x/Me program. Instead, because WinXP is descended
>> from the WinNT/2K OS family, it has a command line utility called
>> "Chkdsk," which performs much better.
>
> Command line? Really. Sorry, but that certainly doesn't seem like a
> step forward to me. Also, is this the same as the old "Chkdsk" from
> DOS days?
>
Similar and works very well. Although you're likely never to have to use
it.
>> Start > Run > Cmd > Chkdsk.exe /? for the correct syntax and
>> available options.
>> Alternatively, double-click My Computer > right-click the desired
>> hard drive > Properties > Tools > Error-checking/Check Now. This
>> will run Chkdsk, normally on the next reboot.
>> However, unless you are actually experiencing a specific problem
>> related to your hard drive's file system, there's no real need to run
>> Chkdsk. The utility is not designed to be used as part of any period
>> maintenance plan.
>
> My main concern is that if the system locks up and has to be restarted
> ("Windows has detected that the last shutdown wasn't normal" or
> whatever), what takes care of the problem? Or does journaling usually
> make such things unnecessary?
Journaling. I've never seen a NTFS system not recover from a lockup,
power failure etc.
>
>>> and that NTFS is slower than FAT32.
>>
>> Not usually. Someone's been feeding you a line. In most cases,
>> it's just the opposite.
>
> I'm afraid that this seems to be a serious point of contention from
> what I've read on the internet. For instance:
>
> http://elexorr.com/ntfs_vs_fat32.htm
>
>>> Not only that, but you can't use an emergency startup disk or disc
>>> with NTFS. Anybody care to elaborate or clarify?
>>
>> Well, with NTFS, there's almost never a need for an emergency
>> startup disk, beyond the WinXP installation CD, which is bootable and
>> provides access to the Repair Console.
>
> From this link:
>
> http://cquirke.mvps.org/ntfs.htm
>
> the following:
> ____________________________________
> But while NTFS has no maintenance OS from which...
> * Data can easily be recovered
Recovered from what? in what form?
> * File system structure can be manually checked and repaired
chkdsk in Safe Mode or command line Safe Mode.
> * Malware can be scanned for and cleaned
Run those utils in Safe Mode. I've yet to see a malware scanner that
did not require GUI.
>
> ...I would avoid the use of NTFS in consumer PCs.
> ____________________________________
>
> Care to comment? Please? Hey, I'm new to this NTFS vs. FAT32 s
> argument.
Go with NTFS. If for nothing else, for the support of large HDD and
files.
>
>>> Since I'm going to be using the Home edition of XP, how would NTFS
>>> be more secure than FAT32?
>>
>> Well, since FAT32 has *NO* security capabilities at all.....
>
> Not sure why I should be worried about such things on a single user
> computer. Besides, it's my understanding that XP Home and NTFS doesn't
> allow built in file encryption like XP Pro and NTFS5. File encryption
> is pretty fundamental to file security one would think.
>
> One last question: what if I want to access the files from another OS
> on another computer? Can I simply burn them to a CD or DVD and put
> that disc in the other computer? Seems to me that I tried this with
> some files from a computer that was running Windows 2000. I was unable
> to read some of the files. Of course, the computer's file structure
> was in pretty bad shape.
>
> Thanks for your input!
If the other computer is networked to yours, XP will take care of the
translation. Writing them to CD will work.
>
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