Re: xp reactivation after mobo change

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:40:36 +0200, "Alias"
<aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote:

>
> "Donald McDaniel" <dlmcdaniel2005@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1dvug1dfgr11bcnfmk2db6p1u1a97kano7@xxxxxxxxxx
> > On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:44:05 +0200, "Alias"
> > <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Donald McDaniel" <dlmcdaniel2005@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
> >> >> When either activation or WGA doesn't work for you, get back to me. It
> >> >> has
> >> >> nothing to do with maturity, you moron! Being considered guilty until
> >> >> proven
> >> >> innocent is an insult. Period.
> >> >>
> >> >> Alias
> >> >>
> >> > Sir: ONLY a court of law can convict a person of guilt or innocense.
> >>
> >> Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said that MS ASSUMES YOU
> >> ARE
> >> GUILTY, not me, you moron! They ASSUME ONE IS GUILTY OF PIRACY UNTIL ONE
> >> PROVES OTHERWISE by activation and WGA.
> >
> > OK, prove it publically! I will certainly change my mind about
> > Microsoft if you can PROVE (with internal documentation from MICROSOFT
> > or a finding by a court of law) what you just said.
>
> Reading comprehension isn't your only problem. You also have a problem with
> logic. Why should I have to prove I bought something twice when I have the
> receipt for payment over in the drawer?

No, "alias" you are the one with reading comprehension problems: I
was referring your bold-faced lie that Microsoft automatically assumes
all are guilty of piracy, above: Prove that Microsoft automatically
considers all guilty of piracy until one proves it otherwise.

Microsoft is not trying to weed out the LEGITIMATE license-holders
with Product activation. They are trying to weed out the illegitimate
licenses. To do this, they MUST check ALL keys without exception,
since they have no record connecting an individual key with a
legitimate license holder's name.

They DO have a list of pirated keys, or keys known to be pirated at
one time or other, or keys which are used to attempt activation when
the Activation record for that particular key is flagged as being
already used to install on a machine with a different hardware profile
than the hardware profile of the machine currently attempting to
activate.

So a part of Product Activation is a check of ALL keys against that
list, plus other algorithms. Those which do not pass the test are
rejected, while those which do pass it are activated, or go on to
further algorithms.


> > Product Activation ACTUALLY assumes that ALL product keys of XP are
> > LEGITIMATE, not ILLEGITIMATE. You just got it backward. Not
> > completely your fault. You just lack a little knowledge and
> > understanding about Microsoft Product Activation.
>
> BS. If they assumed all were legitimate, no PA would be necessary.
> Meanwhile, the pirates just laugh and burn another copy.

No, if YOU assumed that all were legitimate, no PA would be necessary.
However, not all users of Windows are as honest as you.

For whatever reason, Microsoft has decided that it is necessary


> > (By the way, Product Activation has been found to be COMPLETELY legal.
> > I assure you, Microsofts' legal department would have reseached case
> > law VERY, VERY carefully before instituting the process. Not only
> > that, but MANY software developers are starting to require Product
> > Activation or other means of authentication of some sort.)
>
> BS. PA has never been challenged in court. You're back pedaling big time
> now.
> >
> > Tell me, WHY do you feel "insulted", as you call it? An insult can
> > only touch you if there is ANY thing in you which responds to it.
>
> Having to prove, twice, that I bought something is insulting.

Product activation does not check to see if YOU bought the license,
they only check to see if the KEY is valid, since they have no
personal information about you, unless you actually REGISTER the
software after installing it. They don't care whether YOU bought the
license or not. They only care that the key is valid. I don't even
think that they have a record of which key was generated by the
manufacturer for each copy of XP. They MAY have a record, though. I
just don't know. If they did, it would make it really easy to check a
license's validity. Just check each key against that list of valid
keys.

However, you know, and I know that MANY copies of XP have been
casually copied, and distributed, either by real pirates, or your
neighbor (this is an example: I am not specifically referring to YOUR
neighbor here, since only God knows whether your actual neighbor
casually copied Windows 9x or XP), because Windows 9x users did it a
LOT. As long as it contains characters with correct numerical order
and type, it is considered legitimate. Microsoft RIGHTLY assumed when
XP was released, that people were going to try to casually copy it
like they did with 9x. THOSE people made Product Activation
necessary, not Microsoft.

> >
> > For instance, I do not feel insulted that you have called me a "Moron"
> > publically several times in this newsgroup, because I know I am not a
> > moron.
>
> I should have rephrased that. You were and are acting like a moron. I don't
> know you well enough to know if you always act like that.

How does a moron act? What are the symptoms of moronic behavior
patterns? Are you a mental health professional? Are you a
sociologist? Are you a Psychiatric Social Worker? Are you a
specialist in abnormal psychology? What are your degrees? Where did
you go to school? What schools did you attend? What is your true
name, address, and phone number, so I can check them out.

Until you can prove to me that you are qualified to make such
judgments, I will continue to reject such attempted insults.

>
> > Now, when I was younger, I would have felt insulted, because I
> > was puffed up with pride, like most younger adults and some older
> > ones, too. I do admit that I still struggle with pride from time to
> > time. After all, I am still a little immature myself. I certainly
> > don't claim to being God or a wise man.
>
> Good thing.
> >
> > There is no room or need for pride in the heart of a mature person.
> >
> > Donald L McDaniel
>
> Really? Gosh, I always thought one should be proud of a number of things
> like a job well done, caring for your customers and not driving them crazy
> with having to prove they're not thieves twice after paying for a product
> but what the hell do I know, I don't believe in a god and I think that Jesus
> of Nazarath had a slew of kids with Magdalena and retired to the Kashmir.
>
> Cody
>

Cody, there is a BIG difference between being "puffed up with pride"
and being proud of your accomplishments, as long as you report that
God helped you perform them, and are truly humble about your
accomplishments. The other kind of pride (false pride) originates
with Satan, who thought that he could rise up to take God's Place on
His Throne, or beside Him, thinking he was equal with God.

If you think within yourself tthat you are GREATER or BETTER than
anyone else, you are puffed up with false pride. This is what I mean
by "puffed up with pride".

By the way, did you know that the Bible (God's Book) tells us that
only a fool believes there is no God.

Are you a fool, Cody?

Donald L McDaniel
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