Re: Is Zotob A MS Plot . . . .

begin  trojan.vbs ... On Thursday 18 August 2005 11:11 am, Dimple Wathen
had this to say in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> NoStop wrote:
>>
>> Right On! Problem is the simple Wintards around here are too busy sucking
>> off MickeyMouse to see reality. They must either hold MickeyMouse shares
>> or as I suspect, they're just your typical unquestioning sheep who want
>> to be spoonfed as they use their computers.
>
> I want my computers to just work! I want to plug my new USB printer/
> scanner/ camera/ whatever and have it work.*
>
A bit of careful planning to assure a particular peripheral is supported is
all that is required to have no problems running hardware under Linux. Hey,
much like when installing XP. :-)

> I suspect that I am not in the minority in this regard. Which means I
> want to go buy the computer and hardware, plug it in, and have it just
> start working. Like a television or a telephone.
>
> You see, we, the majority. Just go to Staples or Best Buy and buy
> whatever on the shelves we can afford. And that makes us "Wintards" but
> only becuase that is all that is available for purchase! (Micrososft is
> a monopoly and clearly has broken many laws to get in the position
> where it is today.)
>
Slowly this is changing. As an example, here's not too bad a system that
comes bundled with a Linux varient designed for the complete computer
noob ...

http://www.ncix.com/simplepc/index.php?id=15665


> Sure there are places to but GNU/Linux boxes, and all Artists get MACs
> (as they should). But Linux does not run Everquest and Baldur's Gate
> and Half-Life and most other games. (How is Wine these days? I hope
> it's better than it was, I plan on trying it again.)
>
See whether there's a game you must have that won't run under Linux if you
use the following technology ...

http://www.transgaming.com/portfolio.php

> "Wintards" want (perhaps by falling for advertising) Quickbooks and
> Quicken and all those Tax packages. These kinds of applications exist
> for Linux and MAC but again, where does one go to buy them? There 2 MAC
> dealers in a 60 mile radius of where I live. Zero Linux places.
>
> "Wintards" want to have a person to talk to when their computer or
> software fails. Do you know what it is like to have to rely solely on
> newsgroups and websites for support? It works but it takes a long time
> to find solutions.
>
As I'm sure you know, one can find better support on the Web hanging around
places like this and other forums than what one would ever get from an OEM
distributor, whose answer to everything is simply to kick in the "recovery"
disk and put ones system back to square one.


>
> <rant>
>
> I adminster many Windows machines. And 75% of them keep failing.
> Actually, all Windows machines slowly degenerate over time. They really
> do. They are like old cars where the transmission is going, the brakes
> are wearing, and the under body rusts out. It needs constant
> maintenance.
>
You have that one right. With Linux, once installed it just works and
continues to work. Windoze on the other hand slowly degrades until one is
forced to wipe it out and start again from scratch. Sad, indeed, but the
truth.

> Everytime a program is installed on Windows the system becomes just a
> little bit more unstable. The more programs one installs the more
> unstable Windows becomes. Windows, to this day, still allows programs
> to install and replace systems files in it's system folder!! This is so
> stupid!!!! That is Window's biggest problem.
>
Precisely! The Windoze API allows any software package to write anything the
developer chooses to anywhere in the registry. The result ... exactly what
you have stated. It's a kludgy OS that I like to refer to as a "toy
operating system", not meant for serious computing.

> And every program these days wants to install it's own services and
> startup programs -- almost every single on of them!
>
How often have you heard laments around here about how Norton has taken over
everything or RealAudio, etc. It's disgraceful and leaves all Wintards at
their mercy.

> Just look at the thousands of Hijackthis logs people keep posting all
> over the Net saying "My computers is ^&^#$$&*&% please help!". Ninety
> percent of those Hijackthis logs have some sort of anti-virus,
> anti-spyware program installed!
>
> I am currently considering replacing a WIN2K application server with a
> Linux/Samba server. It will take a month, I guess, for me to find the
> right distro and then to set it up. But according to a trustworthy
> source it will be exponentially better than WIN2K.
>
It will be like night and day, believe me. Done it, been there and can vouch
for it. May I suggest you look at a distro like Mandriva 2005 LE. Very easy
to install, comes with all the goodies you'll ever need for a LAMP and
SAMBA server and is rock stable. Maintenance is a snap using urpmi. The
first thing to do after installing is to visit http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
and follow the instructions there to make package downloading a snap.


> But then of course, this is an XP forum and I dirgress...
>
> I am here because I use XP and I am no expert. I keep needing to
> discuss XP problems with others so that I may fix them. I don't
> generally just want to "chat" about XP. I got better things to do. (I
> suspect we all do, actually.) But like many, I also need to fret awhile
> to "let off some steam."
>
> </rant>
>
> --
> * I am past the days of programming and installing and configuring... I
> do not want to have to run 'tar -xf some_driver_1.2.3 ; make install'
> every time I have a new peripheral. Are those days past for Linux? I
> really truly hope so! I really do! But maybe we should start a seperate
> thread for that issue.

Yes, see above re: easyurpmi.


--
Have you been MicroShafted today?
To mess up a Linux box, you need to work *at* it.
To mess up a Windows box, you need to work *on* it.
.

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