Re: Usenet vs. Web

Thanks. I thought you had some new beta thing you were showing.

I hadn't tried googlegroups yet... Just migrated from the Microsoft site.



"Ken Blake" <kblake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> In ZU1pe.4250$xI2.1297@trnddc09">news:ZU1pe.4250$xI2.1297@trnddc09,
> RJB <notpublic@xxxxxxx> typed:
>
>> The google group thing sounds interesting...
>>
>> But your link was a little flaky. Can you repost?
>
>
> Sure. I'm not sure what happened, but it's just www.googlegroups.com
>
>
>> Thanks for the tip,
>
>
> You're welcome.
>
>
>> (And, you have to admit, many people just ain't trying to help when
>> they extol the virtues of newsgroups vs. Web... It seems like it's an
>> ego "I was internet before internet was cool" kind of thing.)
>
>
> There may be some people like that, but in my experience the great
> majority of those who tout a newsreader instead of using the Microsoft CDO
> web interface are simply trying to help. I'm one of those people, and I
> know I'm trying to help when I do it.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
>>
>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Ol5GpCtaFHA.2980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> In Li1pe.19078$J73.15842@trnddc05">news:Li1pe.19078$J73.15842@trnddc05,
>>> RJB <notpublic@xxxxxxx> typed:
>>>
>>>> I am going to go out on a limb and say I prefer the web access to
>>>> these help groups OVER the usenet versions. I would think others,
>>>> would, too.
>>>> Follow me out, please.
>>>>
>>>> I currently am not having any problems with, say, Excel.
>>>>
>>>> So I dont subscribe to any Excel newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>> But tomorrow, I may need to do something bizarre - like writing a
>>>> formula that will take prime numbers, divide by pi, and if the
>>>> result rhymes with whatever word is typed into cell A1, it will
>>>> list it as a nine-digit number, will cross-reference it and give me
>>>> the phone number of the nearest Circuit City to that ZIP+4 code.
>>>>
>>>> So, if I subscribe to the Excel newsgroup, it only pushes posts from
>>>> June 2 til today into my Outlook.
>>>
>>>
>>> First, note that Outlook doesn't do newsgroups at all. You mean
>>> Outlook Express, not Outlook.
>>>
>>> Second, with Outlook Express you can get all the posts that are one
>>> the server, not just a couple of days back. If you're not getting
>>> all the posts, it's probably that you have Outlook Express
>>> configured to get only 300 posts at a time (the default). Go to
>>> Tools | Options, and on the Read tab, uncheck "Get nnnn headers at
>>> a time." Third, Outlook Express is only one newsreader out of many
>>> possible
>>> choices. If you don't like the way Outlook Express does things, try
>>> some other newsreader. They are almost all better than using the web
>>> interface.
>>>> But on the web interface, I can search archives that go back at
>>>> least as far as September 2004.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fourth, if you want to do a search, the search facilities at
>>> http://groups-beta.ghow oogle.com/ are probably the best available,
>>> and you can (and should) use them regardless of you normally
>>> participate in newsgroups.
>>>
>>>
>>>> So I can actually look to see if someone else had a similar problem,
>>>> and try to solve it for myself.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's good to do, but try googlegroups (especially their advanced
>>> group search), which is superior.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But with the usenet version, I MUST post my CURRENT problem. Which
>>>> is probably frustrating for people who monitor this thing.
>>>>
>>>> So, I would think the web interface would be OK.
>>>>
>>>> But reading other people's posts, it seems that if I use the Web
>>>> version, my children will be born dumb.
>>>
>>>
>>> You are welcome to use newsgroups any way you want, but people are
>>> trying to help you by pointing out better ways of doing things. As
>>> far as I'm concerned, there are two major problems with using the
>>> Microsoft web-based interface:
>>>
>>> 1. It doesn't work very well, and people often have a hard time
>>> finding what they're looking for.
>>>
>>> 2. If you want to participate in a newsgroup regularly, it's much
>>> slower than a newsreader. That's because it gets the messages one at
>>> a time, as you navigate to each new message. With a newsreader, you
>>> can download all the unread messages at once, so moving from one to
>>> the next is instantaneous.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>


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