Re: Usenet vs. Web

The google group thing sounds interesting...

But your link was a little flaky. Can you repost?

Thanks for the tip,

(And, you have to admit, many people just ain't trying to help when they
extol the virtues of newsgroups vs. Web... It seems like it's an ego "I was
internet before internet was cool" kind of thing.)


"Ken Blake" <kblake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Ol5GpCtaFHA.2980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In Li1pe.19078$J73.15842@trnddc05">news:Li1pe.19078$J73.15842@trnddc05,
> RJB <notpublic@xxxxxxx> typed:
>
>> I am going to go out on a limb and say I prefer the web access to
>> these help groups OVER the usenet versions. I would think others,
>> would, too.
>> Follow me out, please.
>>
>> I currently am not having any problems with, say, Excel.
>>
>> So I dont subscribe to any Excel newsgroups.
>>
>> But tomorrow, I may need to do something bizarre - like writing a
>> formula that will take prime numbers, divide by pi, and if the result
>> rhymes with whatever word is typed into cell A1, it will list it as a
>> nine-digit number, will cross-reference it and give me the phone
>> number of the nearest Circuit City to that ZIP+4 code.
>>
>> So, if I subscribe to the Excel newsgroup, it only pushes posts from
>> June 2 til today into my Outlook.
>
>
> First, note that Outlook doesn't do newsgroups at all. You mean Outlook
> Express, not Outlook.
>
> Second, with Outlook Express you can get all the posts that are one the
> server, not just a couple of days back. If you're not getting all the
> posts, it's probably that you have Outlook Express configured to get only
> 300 posts at a time (the default). Go to Tools | Options, and on the
> Read tab, uncheck "Get nnnn headers at a time."
>
> Third, Outlook Express is only one newsreader out of many possible
> choices. If you don't like the way Outlook Express does things, try some
> other newsreader. They are almost all better than using the web interface.
>
>
>> But on the web interface, I can search archives that go back at least
>> as far as September 2004.
>
>
> Fourth, if you want to do a search, the search facilities at
> http://groups-beta.ghow oogle.com/ are probably the best available, and
> you can (and should) use them regardless of you normally participate in
> newsgroups.
>
>
>> So I can actually look to see if someone else had a similar problem,
>> and try to solve it for myself.
>
>
> That's good to do, but try googlegroups (especially their advanced group
> search), which is superior.
>
>
>> But with the usenet version, I MUST post my CURRENT problem. Which is
>> probably frustrating for people who monitor this thing.
>>
>> So, I would think the web interface would be OK.
>>
>> But reading other people's posts, it seems that if I use the Web
>> version, my children will be born dumb.
>
>
> You are welcome to use newsgroups any way you want, but people are trying
> to help you by pointing out better ways of doing things. As far as I'm
> concerned, there are two major problems with using the Microsoft web-based
> interface:
>
> 1. It doesn't work very well, and people often have a hard time finding
> what they're looking for.
>
> 2. If you want to participate in a newsgroup regularly, it's much slower
> than a newsreader. That's because it gets the messages one at a time, as
> you navigate to each new message. With a newsreader, you can download all
> the unread messages at once, so moving from one to the next is
> instantaneous.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>


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