Re: Pay for MS anti-malware service!

"NoStop" <nostop@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Kerry Brown wrote:
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>> "NoStop" <nostop@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> Kerry Brown wrote:
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>>>> "NoStop" <nostop@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:
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>>>>>> Selling services has been going on a long time. Isn't the Redhat
>>>>>> business model built on selling services.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Redhat bases its business model on selling services, the same way
>>>>> that
>>>>> Mandriva does, SuSE and others. BUT, the big difference is that they
>>>>> aren't
>>>>> also selling the OS and on top of that charging for services like M$
>>>>> is
>>>>> proposing to do.
>>>>
>>>> I just searched redhat.com trying to download the redhat enterprise
>>>> distro
>>>> for free. I couldn't find it. Please point me to a link where I can
>>>> download it for free (not a trial version). I could well be wrong but I
>>>> couldn't find it.
>>>>
>>> Sure, get the free version (no Redhat support) here ...
>>>
>>> http://linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=64
>>>
>>
>> That's Fedora. I have that. I like it and am considering offering a
>> workstation based on it to my customers. I'm trying to decide what
>> packages they will need so I can reasonably support it for them. My
>> understanding is that Fedora is a test bed for Redhat and may or may not
>> include all the packages in Redhat Enterprise.
>
> Yes, it is definitely bleeding edge. RD Enterprise on the other hand
> sticks
> with the more tried and true packages.
>
>> In order to support Redhat
>> Enterprise they must have a stable, known configuration/version. They
>> charge for that and then sell related services. Other than the scale of
>> the business and percentage markup charged how is that different from
>> most
>> other software companies including Microsoft?
>
> Duh, I thought you already answered the differences. Where does one pickup
> a
> free Microsoft OS?
>
>> In a free enterprise society
>> shouldn't the price be based on what the market will pay? To say you have
>> to charge a set markup is socialism.
>
> Who has said that? Eventually people will clue in to the rip-off of M$'s
> price structure and shoddy software and look elsewhere. This is happening
> all the time and at a accelerating rate, especially amongst governments
> and
> larger enterprises.
>
>> The argument that Microsoft has a
>> monopoly is specious.
>
> Of course it has a monopoly. Where have you been? Why do you think the DOJ
> went after M$, along with the EU and states within the USA? Windoze can be
> found on something like 95% of the computers in this world. If that isn't
> a
> monopoly, tell me what is.
>
>> Netware used to have a "monopoly" in the server
>> market. Digital Research used to have a "monopoly" in the small computer
>> OS market. These "monopolies" disintegrated when a better marketing
>> program came along. The satellite TV industry used to use the same
>> argument that the cable companies had a monopoly and they couldn't
>> compete. Over time they improved their marketing and in some markets they
>> now have more installs than cable. It has happened and will happen again
>> in the software industry as well. That is what the free market is all
>> about. Please don't think I am bashing linux or supporting Microsoft. I
>> am
>> just pro free enterprise.
>
> Well good for you. I'm not the least bit interested in arguing politics or
> economics with you. So I'll stop now.
>
> Goodbye.

If we're not arguing politics what have we been doing?

It was fun.

Kerry

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