Re: Pay for MS anti-malware service!

Kerry Brown wrote:

> "NoStop" <nostop@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Kerry Brown wrote:
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>>> "NoStop" <nostop@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:
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>>>>> Selling services has been going on a long time. Isn't the Redhat
>>>>> business model built on selling services.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Redhat bases its business model on selling services, the same way
>>>> that
>>>> Mandriva does, SuSE and others. BUT, the big difference is that they
>>>> aren't
>>>> also selling the OS and on top of that charging for services like M$ is
>>>> proposing to do.
>>>
>>> I just searched redhat.com trying to download the redhat enterprise
>>> distro
>>> for free. I couldn't find it. Please point me to a link where I can
>>> download it for free (not a trial version). I could well be wrong but I
>>> couldn't find it.
>>>
>> Sure, get the free version (no Redhat support) here ...
>>
>> http://linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=64
>>
>
> That's Fedora. I have that. I like it and am considering offering a
> workstation based on it to my customers. I'm trying to decide what
> packages they will need so I can reasonably support it for them. My
> understanding is that Fedora is a test bed for Redhat and may or may not
> include all the packages in Redhat Enterprise.

Yes, it is definitely bleeding edge. RD Enterprise on the other hand sticks
with the more tried and true packages.

> In order to support Redhat
> Enterprise they must have a stable, known configuration/version. They
> charge for that and then sell related services. Other than the scale of
> the business and percentage markup charged how is that different from most
> other software companies including Microsoft?

Duh, I thought you already answered the differences. Where does one pickup a
free Microsoft OS?

> In a free enterprise society
> shouldn't the price be based on what the market will pay? To say you have
> to charge a set markup is socialism.

Who has said that? Eventually people will clue in to the rip-off of M$'s
price structure and shoddy software and look elsewhere. This is happening
all the time and at a accelerating rate, especially amongst governments and
larger enterprises.

> The argument that Microsoft has a
> monopoly is specious.

Of course it has a monopoly. Where have you been? Why do you think the DOJ
went after M$, along with the EU and states within the USA? Windoze can be
found on something like 95% of the computers in this world. If that isn't a
monopoly, tell me what is.

> Netware used to have a "monopoly" in the server
> market. Digital Research used to have a "monopoly" in the small computer
> OS market. These "monopolies" disintegrated when a better marketing
> program came along. The satellite TV industry used to use the same
> argument that the cable companies had a monopoly and they couldn't
> compete. Over time they improved their marketing and in some markets they
> now have more installs than cable. It has happened and will happen again
> in the software industry as well. That is what the free market is all
> about. Please don't think I am bashing linux or supporting Microsoft. I am
> just pro free enterprise.

Well good for you. I'm not the least bit interested in arguing politics or
economics with you. So I'll stop now.

Goodbye.


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