Re: MS to charge for security?



"NoStop" <nostop@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I can't figure out what you're rambling about, but just enough to
understand
that you can't visualize beyond a workstation computer like Windoze XP
and
really don't have a clue what you're talking about.

If a Linux host is running a mail server that serves mail to other
clients
on the LAN and those clients happen to be Windoze computers, then
indeed an
AV program running on the Linux server can and does scan the incoming
email
for viruses before passing the email on to the Windoze clients. You
see
this all the time with ISPs and web hosting companies that offer
anti-virus
email scanning. Get it?

Yeah, now that you've explained more than a one-line response that supposedly attempted to encompass everything of what you meant. You're talking about adding features to a mail or file server program for the benefit of *whatever* platform connects to it. So are you claiming that NO viruses actually execute and can harm platforms *other* than Windows? So is http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/freebsd.scalper.worm.html a hoax? Um, where did rootkits start (hint: *ROOT*kit)?

The AV software of which you speak is designed to function under those
setups of using a server for transferring messages or files; i.e., the
AV product protects that process.  I'm not sure AV software incorporated
or integrated into mail programs actually also protects the host itself
on which the mail program executes.  Explain the point of AV software
that is designed ONLY for the Linux workstation (i.e., it is NOT an
enterprise version nor is it a server add-on process for filtering
messages or files).  There are non-Windows AV products for servers,
desktops, and laptops.  You chose to focus on use of AV incorporated
into a program running on a server.

I chose the larger number of hosts where the AV is used on a desktop
(workstation).  I believe Sophos has a workstation version of their
Linux AV program.  BitDefender has a Linux version for workstations
(freeware).  BitDefender has their Mail Server anti-virus product which,
as you say, protects WHATEVER platform connects to the mail server
process to get messages from there.  Does that mail server AV product
actually protect the host on which the mail program executes, or do you
still need to get a separate copy of BitDefender Linux Edition to
protect the host?  In any case, there are AV products to protect Linux
workstations and servers.

There are far fewer viruses that target commercial *NIX platforms.  The
*NIX community is generally more intelligent than the Windows community,
but that is because they have to be.  Windows was designed to be a
consumer OS which highly differentiates it from the history of evolution
of *NIX platforms.  There is some social engineering that has been
present in *NIX platforms and their applications that lagged getting to
Windows.  But to say or even imply that *NIX platforms are virus proof
is just a flat out lie.


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