Re: How many times can i install XP on same computer

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In <Bqqfe.8996$GQ5.4991@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Steve N." <me@xxxxxxxx> writes:
>Bruce Chambers wrote:
>
>> johnsuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My experience is that you are allowed perhaps 2 or 3 Activations
>>> before you are refused. I phone to get the key (the boxes are not on
>>> line), and after the first refusal I feigned ignorance and pleaded
>>> extenuating circumstances to get an extra activation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> That's incorrect.
>
>It happens Bruce. WPA is flawed and Windows itself lies to people saying
>it has been activated too many times when online activation fails for
>whatever reason. Then people have to call in and explain to some
>stranger their situation and sometimes try to prove they are not guilty
>of software piracy. If the stranger on the other end doesn't like their
>explanation then activation can be refused.
>
>>
>> There's no limit to the number of times you can reinstall and
>> activate the same WinXP license on the same PC. Nor is there ever a
>> charge. Nor does a Product Key (so long as it's not an evaluation
>> license) ever expire. If it's been more than 120 days since you last
>> activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to
>> activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you
>> might have to make a 5 minute phone call.
>>
>> Here are the facts pertaining to activation:
>>
>> Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
>> http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/
>>
>> Windows Product Activation (WPA)
>> http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
>>
>
>Those are the Micorsoft version of the facts. That's the way MS _hopes_
>it works but the facts as experienced by end users are often at variance
>with what MS says should happen. I have personally experienced some
>pretty wierd things with WPA. For example, after a clean re-install to a
>new hard drive within a week of the original activation it tells me to
>call MS to activate but the next day it activates online with no problem.
>
>Now with MS disabling valid OEM keys used for mass installations brand
>new machines won't activate out of the box unless you change the key and
>pray it works. No wonder people are confused.
>
>Steve
>

I value Bruce's contributions here and don't want to see him looking silly because he did not have the full facts, so here they are:-

Itook over responsibility for a cluster of computers which came with a cluster of OEM Re-installaion CDs for XP Home. I keep one CD in my toolkit with a list of the MS keys on the boxes. I have used the one CD and the first key on the list for I think four installs, the last one requiring the pleading phone call.

One install was where a user had left the organisation and taken the password with him. I realise now that there may have been a more elegant solution, but I did not know that then. I do anticipate finding boxes where the user has put a password on the safe mode owner. The naive purchaser was not aware of that issue.

I tried to install XP over a failing Me but it refused. Me failed to detect that the hard drive was the problem but a third party utility did. I bought a new drive and installed XP.

I rarely use Windows at home, but the new job brought the need for a test box at home, so I installed XP on a 98 box and it went in beside 98, giving me a choice of boot.

That 4GB drive was too small for the job so I bought another drive and installed XP again.

I can find no disks for computers bought within the last year. Are they not supplied anymore?

Yes we are short on licences but I will recommend that we correct that by getting a site licence and bringing all boxes up to the same OS.



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