Re: eMachines OEM XP woes - time to buy $tandard?
- From: NoStop <nostop@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:43:55 GMT
kurttrail wrote:
> JS wrote:
>> Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
>>> NoStop
>>>
>>> You are in the wrong newsgroups.. and you are not being truthful to
>>> the OP.. Linux is subject to breaches, so the OP will not see an end
>>> to trojans et al.. the hundreds of free programs are not all of good
>>> quality.. I just took a look at the defects list in the
>>> OpenOffice.org page.. not a pretty sight at all.. no problems?.. I
>>> don't think so.. all fun?.. maybe if you like that kind of fun..
>>
>> A distored and biased assessment of Linux from a Microsoft MVP. What
>> a surprise.
>> Firstly, /of course/ Linux is subject to breaches. However, that in
>> no way detracts from the fact that Linux is demonstrably more secure
>> than any version of Windows.
>>
>> As for your claim that "the hundreds of free programs are not all of
>> good quality," that's also a given. However, you forget to mention
>> the high-rolling Free Open Source programs that simply kill the
>> opposition -- think Apache, think gcc, think Mozilla Firefox
>> (currently digging in to IE's market share because the latter is so
>> horrendously insecure. Even the US government recommends you use
>> something else, folks).
>> In any case, raising the spectre of quality is a bit rich coming from
>> a Microsoft proponent. After all, this company is notorious for
>> releasing buggy, insecure software. I only have to start a newsgroup
>> post with "begin " and most of the people in this group won't be
>> able to read the message for Christ's sake!
>> And let's not talk about third-party rubbish like Symantec.
>>
>> Fun? You know, Linux is fun. But until you've tried it with an open
>> mind, you have no right to denigrate it.
>>
>> In other words, get over it. There's more to life than Microsoft.
>
> Linux advocates are stupid, especially when their advocacy of Linux is
> off-topic to the discussion at hand. Where did the OP ask anything
> about Linux?
>
He asked for a SOLUTION to his problems. I offered him one. A very
legitimate one.
> Linux is not the cureall to all computer-related problems. It is just a
> different way of spinning a wheel, and has its own problems, especially
> when it comes to setup and ease of use. Yeah, that may make Linux a
You have no idea what you're talking about here. Today's Linux distros can
be far easier to use than Windoze XP, and that is a fact. Easier because
one doesn't have to concern oneself with obtaining umpteen third-party
patches such as anti-virus programs, spyware sniffers and firewalls to try
and get some kind of security on your box that at any time can be defeated
by the newest malware. Add to that the insanity of the Windoze Registry,
that once corrupted essentially leaves your computer inoperable or the need
to concern oneself with keys and activations whenever the hardware is
updated, and one quickly learns that the Windoze "ease of use" is just so
much FUD. Where's the ease of use when one has to be constantly concerned
about the o/s crashing? Where's the ease of use when one has to be
constantly defragging ones harddrive? Where's the ease of use when
something as simple as a lost license key can mean your system is down?
Where's the ease of use when you have to constantly spend more money for
third-party "solutions" that the operating system itself hasn't provided?
Where's the ease of use when one has to run regedit to fix constant
problems that arise with a closed proprietary system that only the "gurus"
constantly reading KB articles can fanthom? If indeed they really fanthom
it at all.
> little more secure than Windows, but that also makes it harder for
> novices to actually use Linux. If the OP cannot successfully install
> and configure Windows, which is much easier to do than Linux, how in the
> world is the OP gonna be able install and configure Linux?
>
You obviously have no experience with GNU/Linux. My original suggestion of
trying something like Mandrake/Mandriva was made to the OP because it is
really easy to install. Sure it is a different computer experience. You
didn't learn to use Windoze in an evening and learning to run a different
operating system does have a learning curve. But it certainly isn't as hard
as Windoze FUDmakers like to point out. Every step forward with GNU/Linux
is in fact a step forward. With Windoze, it's always one step forward and
two steps backwards because as an o/s it just isn't up to scratch.
> Anyone with a truely open mind will see that the advise to move to Linux
And you sir, lack an open mind and that is obvious.
> is not on-topic, and is not a better solution to the OP's problem. And
> you Linux advocates just look like stupid Zealots in the process!
>
Looks like the kettle calling the pot black.
> God, please save Linux from its over-zealous advocates! Amen!
>
Why do you think that some of us who used to run Windoze and now don't are
advocates of Linux now? It's because we've taken the step towards changing
over from an inept operating system to a real one and have learned the
benefits of doing so. We are simply sharing our experience with others. Not
to make them Linux users, but to point out that there is an alternative
that really works well and should be considered. We do this for the benefit
of other computer users who are having many difficulties with their
computers because of the fact they are struggling to run their computers
with an operating system that is inherently problematic in so many ways.
Why are people like you so afraid that so many of us have chosen to abandon
your beloved operating system that is so unstable, insecure and kludgy? Are
you trying to protecting your Microsoft stocks? Or are you afraid that once
people wake up to a better way of computing, you will no longer be the
"guru"?
> And you cannot accuse me of having any towards Microsoft! Just checkout
> my sig.
>
Your sig is just so much b.s. or you would wake up and smell the coffee.
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Windows is *NOT* a virus. Viruses are small and efficient.
Tired of the insecurity of your Wintendo box? Update to GNU/Linux
STOP the dummying down of America - Move to a REAL o/s.
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