Re: eMachines OEM XP woes - time to buy $tandard?

JS wrote:
> kurttrail wrote:
>> JS wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
>>>
>>>> NoStop
>>>>
>>>> You are in the wrong newsgroups.. and you are not being truthful to
>>>> the OP.. Linux is subject to breaches, so the OP will not see an
>>>> end to trojans et al.. the hundreds of free programs are not all
>>>> of good quality.. I just took a look at the defects list in the
>>>> OpenOffice.org page.. not a pretty sight at all.. no problems?.. I
>>>> don't think so.. all fun?.. maybe if you like that kind of fun..
>>>
>>> A distored and biased assessment of Linux from a Microsoft MVP. What
>>> a surprise.
>>> Firstly, /of course/ Linux is subject to breaches. However, that in
>>> no way detracts from the fact that Linux is demonstrably more secure
>>> than any version of Windows.
>>>
>>> As for your claim that "the hundreds of free programs are not all of
>>> good quality," that's also a given. However, you forget to mention
>>> the high-rolling Free Open Source programs that simply kill the
>>> opposition -- think Apache, think gcc, think Mozilla Firefox
>>> (currently digging in to IE's market share because the latter is so
>>> horrendously insecure. Even the US government recommends you use
>>> something else, folks).
>>> In any case, raising the spectre of quality is a bit rich coming
>>> from a Microsoft proponent. After all, this company is notorious for
>>> releasing buggy, insecure software. I only have to start a newsgroup
>>> post with "begin " and most of the people in this group won't be
>>> able to read the message for Christ's sake!
>>> And let's not talk about third-party rubbish like Symantec.
>>>
>>> Fun? You know, Linux is fun. But until you've tried it with an open
>>> mind, you have no right to denigrate it.
>>>
>>> In other words, get over it. There's more to life than Microsoft.
>>
>>
>> Linux advocates are stupid, especially when their advocacy of Linux
>> is off-topic to the discussion at hand. Where did the OP ask
>> anything about Linux?
>>
>> Linux is not the cureall to all computer-related problems. It is
>> just a different way of spinning a wheel, and has its own problems,
>> especially when it comes to setup and ease of use. Yeah, that may
>> make Linux a little more secure than Windows, but that also makes it
>> harder for novices to actually use Linux. If the OP cannot
>> successfully install and configure Windows, which is much easier to
>> do than Linux, how in the world is the OP gonna be able install and
>> configure Linux?
>
> Dude, that argument is so 90's.
>
> Nowadays, installing Linux is *easier* than installing Windows,
> simply because you don't have to worry about installing all your
> devices after the installation of the OS.
>
> You can even run Linux from CD and have a fully functional Linux
> system in 2 minutes.

LOL! Tried to do that just yesterday, and it couldn't setup Xserver and
died.

Was yesterday the 90's?

>
>> Anyone with a truely open mind will see that the advise to move to
>> Linux is not on-topic, and is not a better solution to the OP's
>> problem. And you Linux advocates just look like stupid Zealots in
>> the process!
>
> I agree that the original Linux advocacy post was off-topic and
> unhelpful. I'm just responding to the MVP's one-sided comments about
> Linux.
>> God, please save Linux from its over-zealous advocates! Amen!
>>
>> And you cannot accuse me of having any towards Microsoft! Just
>> checkout my sig.
>
> Look at your sig indeed - your 'rebellion' is completely toothless
> because you lack either the daring or wherewithal to find an
> alternative to MS's products.

ROFL! My problems aren't so much with MS products, but with the
companies policies, especially when it comes to the FUD it spreads.

> No wonder you're a little bitter.

LOL! Whatever. At least I don't have to distort reality, like you!

"Firstly, of course Linux is subject to breaches. However, that in no
way
detracts from the fact that Linux is demonstrably more secure than any
version
of Windows."

Please demonstrate it.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39116229,00.htm

"As for your claim that "the hundreds of free programs are not all of
good
quality," that's also a given. However, you forget to mention the
high-rolling
Free Open Source programs that simply kill the opposition -- think
Apache, think
gcc, think Mozilla Firefox."

Of course YOU fail to mention that both Apache, and GCC are of no direct
use to the average computer user. Again, in the context of this thread,
I doubt the OP could setup and use Apache server sofware, or use a
programming tool, if they can't even figure out to install their video
card drivers after installing Windows.

And that Firefox's 6% of the browser market really is still nothing
compared to IE's 89%. But hey, you are disputing a MS-MVP you accuse of
"A distored and biased assessment of Linux" by giving a distorted and
biased assessment of Linux! Pot meet Kettle!

"Fun? You know, Linux is fun. But until you've tried it with an open
mind, you
have no right to denigrate it."

No OS is fun, it is just the underlying code that gets everything
working together. And that just demonstrates how you will distort
reason as a biased linux advocate.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"


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