Re: My windows xp home is embedded in a Gateway restore disk

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From: Steve N. (Steve_N_at_nunya.biz.nes)
Date: 02/03/05 

Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:25:30 -0800

kurttrail wrote:
> Steve N. wrote:
>
>>Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>>Steve/
>>>"No. Did I say that?"
>>>I never said you did, but I did ask a question.
>>>EXACTLY what do you want Microsoft to do?
>>
>>You never asked me that. You asked me:
>>
>>
>>>So would you rather Microsoft dictate specifically how an OEM does
>>>business?
>>
>>They already do!
>>
>>
>>>That you have not made clear unless you want the option for the
>>>cheaper OEM gone.
>>
>>It should be obvious that is exactly what I want.
>>
>>
>>>The fact there is OEM is not the problem.
>>>OEM is a choice and it seems you want that choice removed since your
>>>statement "OEM Options are a bad and STUPID idea".
>>>What should change is the OEMs and Microsoft should be more
>>>forthcoming on the advantages and disadvantages of OEM, and that I
>>>have said before.
>>
>>Yeah right. Say in big bold letters right on the box, "In the event of
>>needing to re-install the operating system all your programs and files
>>will be lost." Who's gonna buy that?
>>
>>
>>>"They didn't need it before and they don't need it now."
>>>OEM has been around for a very long time and is far from unique to
>>>Microsoft.
>>
>>You're diverting the subject. It's not about OEM companies. It's about
>>crippled OEM installations that leave the end user in a lurch because
>>they can't do a repair install or even load the recovery console from
>>a CD or install the recovery console to the hard drive. This has not
>>been the case with prior versions of Windows. When you bought a copy
>>of Windows you got the full product on CD.
>>
>>
>>>"No, Microsoft has chosen the same route they've always chosen -
>>>PROFITS." Just like every other business, the stock holders (someone
>>>you know is probably included) demand it.
>>>
>>
>>I have nothing against MS making money and I never said I did. You
>>said MS chose the path of freedom but that's really not true. The end
>>user who unwittingly buys such an OEM install is not free to repair
>>the OS when it dive-bombs. It's a crippled and incomplete operating
>>system. That's not freedom, that's limitation.
>>
>>The fact remains that MS allows for such crippled OEM installs in the
>>first place, so if you're going to blame anyone point to the source of
>>the problem, which was my point. And yes, it _is_ stupid because now
>>all the folks who've bought such a limited installation of Windows
>>are or will be pissed-off at MS for allowing it to happen.
>>
>>Steve
>
>
> He means it's freedom for the corporate OEMs.

I can read, I know what he meant.

> Juppy could care less
> about the END USER, as he is a self-loathing Human Being.

I won't make that sort of judgement about him.

> He is here to
> help a corporation, not his fellow Human Beings.
>

I've seen him help people here, so I can't agree with that statement either.

Steve

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