Re: ATTN an MVP that is against the MS EUA

From: David Candy (.)
Date: 02/03/05


Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:37:22 +1100

No. It must meet the 6 elements of a enforcable contract. Plus courts won't enforce slavery (at least Australian courts won't - they won't compel labour though companies aren't given this protection).

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message news:esFqDGbCFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>> As I thought, you will not answer with a simple yes or no.
>>
>> "I'll your question, once you answer mine."
>> Reminiscent of a childhood game.
> 
> 
> "MS has no intent in their Windows XP EULA to allow the buyer to install 
> on more then one computer at the same time, but that does not mean that 
> MS has the LEGAL RIGHT to limit individuals to install Windows XP on 
> only one computer at a time."
> 
> Boy are you stupid!  The answer is there.  "no intent"  "no"
> 
> So now answer my question:
> 
> Is everything written in a contract legally enforceable just because it 
> was mutually agreed to by both parties?
> 
>>
>>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:%23ZLeozaCFHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>>
>>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>>>> Somehow I knew you would not answer that Yes or No question.
>>>
>>> And let's not forget you trying to compare a civil offense with a
>>> criminal one by changing the subject with your question to begin
>>> with!
>>>>
>>>> Let me rephrase:
>>>> As the EULA is written, was it the intent of Microsoft that the
>>>> buyer be entitled to install Windows on more than one computer at
>>>> the same time?
>>>
>>> I'll your question, once you answer mine.
>>>
>>> Here it is:
>>>
>>> Is everything written in a contract legally enforceable just because
>>> both mutually agreed to?
>>>
>>>> Forget all your copyright junk.
>>>
>>> Quoting the Supreme Court is "copyright junk."  ROFL!
>>>
>>>> Some is not relevant and is only posted so you could divert you
>>>> answer.
>>>
>>> All of it is relevant, as what I quoted, with the exception of your
>>> use of the word "it," is directly quoted from Supreme Court rulings!
>>> MS doesn't possess the exclusive right to limit an individuals "fair
>>> use." So while MS may have the intention to limit an individual to
>>> install MS software on only one computer through their EULA, it
>>> really doesn't legally possess the right to do so.
>>>
>>> And I believe that MS's EULA is a legally valid commercial use
>>> contract, but they have yet to legally prove that they have the
>>> right to dispossess individuals of their "fair use" rights through a
>>> post-sale shrinkwrap license.
>>>
>>> And in case you didn't notice it, I did kinda end up answering your
>>> question in this last section in a round about way.  MS has no
>>> intent in their Windows XP EULA to allow the buyer to install on
>>> more then one computer at the same time, but that does not mean that
>>> MS has the LEGAL RIGHT to limit individuals to install Windows XP on
>>> only one computer at a time.  And to convince me otherwise, MS would
>>> have to sue me and win! From Brucey Chumpers favorite web site on 
>>> Fair Use:
>>>
>>> "Unfortunately, if the copyright owner disagrees with your fair use
>>> interpretation, the dispute will have to be resolved by courts or
>>> arbitration." -
>>> http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/index.html
>>>
>>> So my interpretation of "fair use" as I understand it though the
>>> SUPREME COURT stating, "Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted
>>> work for a "fair use"; the copyright owner does not possess the
>>> exclusive right to such a use," stands for me, at the very least,
>>> until the copyright owner, in this case Microsoft, sues me and wins
>>> in court or through arbitration! And believe me, if the time ever
>>> happens where I'm sued over my interpretation of "fair use," I fully
>>> intend to fight for my interpretation to the bitter end.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>>> Self-anointed Moderator
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" 
> 
>


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