Re: What's as friendly as Windows XP? was Windows XP Issue (Activation) III
From: Leythos (void_at_nowhere.lan)
Date: 02/02/05
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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:27:31 GMT
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:12:47 +0100, Alias wrote:
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> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.02.02.19.59.03.545997@nowhere.lan...
> | On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:14:16 -0500, kurttrail wrote:
> |
> | > if there is ever a consumer & computer moron friendly version
> | > of Linux, that will run software developed for MS OSs. And if there is
> | > a company that develops this version of Linux before MS releases
> | > Longhorn, MS will rue the day that they ever started this EULA war with
> | > their private non-commercial customer.
> |
> | Now, here you've got a good new topic. Since we're not going to agree on
> | the validity of the EULA, lets address the above question:
> |
> | About two months ago I started reviewing many different versions of
> | alternative OS's, I narrowed it down to primary testing of SUSE 9.1
> | Personal, Mandrake 10.0 Official, and RedHat Fedora Core 3. SUSE I started
> | with a Laptop (P3/600/512MB), 3 small workstations (P3/833/256) and a
> | single Dual (P3/1g/2g RAM) as my test cases. SUSE 9.1 Personal installed
> | on all systems and found and setup all hardware, but the KDE desktop
> | (Window manager) was slow. Mandrake 10.0 Official also installed and found
> | all the hardware, but the desktop didn't detect the video resolutions
> | properly and I had to edit the KDE configuration file. Fedora Core 3
> | installed and worked perfectly, as did ALL of the applications and servers
> | it installed. On FC3 I selected the GNOME window manager (very windows
> | like) and have been able to manage ALL of the resources via graphical
> | interfaces, the only command line I've used is to PING systems.
> |
> | At this point I've wiped the SUSE and MKD systems and started using FC3 on
> | them for testing and learning - I'm using one of the P3's right now to
> | type this.
> |
> | Now, it took 90 minutes to install the 3 CD's, but that included all the
> | office apps, editors, servers (HTTP, Mail, FTP, and others), it then took
> | about 2 hours to download all the updates (much like SP2 and Office 2003
> | SP) much the same as Windows does for a fully installed machine.
> |
> | For those people using Exchange servers, well, not to fret, Evolution is a
> | Outlook like product that will work with Exchange (and does all the
> | Outlook things, contacts, calendar (and it looks like Outlooks), tasks,
> | email, etc..) as well as working with POP accounts and IMAP.
> |
> | So, what was the reason for this? Simple, I've run into to many home users
> | that have compromised machines and don't know if they have an alternative,
> | and I didn't know either. I've found that FC3 provides a great FREE
> | platform with simple to use instructions for installation, great tools for
> | editing documents and email and browsing the web, and even has about 20
> | cheap games installed for people that want it. Oh, it also works with my
> | Phaser 8400B color wax/thermal laser and my HP 1300 and my HP 1200.
> |
> | The difference between Windows XP (and version) and FC3 - FC3 comes with
> | servers (web, FTP, file sharing - SAMBA), comes with Office capable
> | applications (Write = Word, Calc = Excel, DIA = cheap visio, Impress =
> | Power Point, and Math which I've not looked at).
> |
> | As for reliability of the platform - I did have one crash, when it
> | upgraded the (and it has a little automatic update tool that lets you know
> | when updates are ready) kernel from 2.6.9-1.667 to 2.6.10-1.741, it would
> | not boot and I don't know enough to fix it. I wiped and reinstalled and
> | did the update and all is working perfectly. Some updates to the kernel
> | require rebooting the entire system no matter what linux zealots tell you.
> |
> | I have this system on a port of my desktop KVM and my Win XP Prof SP2
> | machine on the other, and with the exception of needing use XP to manage
> | the firewall (I run a WatchGuard Firebox that uses a Win based GUI tool)
> | I've not used my XP Prof box for almost 3 days now.
> |
> | There are some difficulties - I've been unable to get R/W access to my
> | Windows 2000/2003 servers for file access, but I've not put a lot of
> | effort into it yet.
> |
> | So, aside from MAC, which is now running a variant of BSD, there is a
> | viable, real, working, full featured, simple to install, easy to use,
> | alternative for the masses of non-technical home users, and it's free and
> | can be installed on as many machines as the user wants :)
> |
>
> When it really becomes user friendly -- your description leads me to believe
> it isn't yet -- MS may have to (gasp!) change its EULA and lower prices.
> Doing that now would be a very smart move on MS' part. Waiting would not be
> very smart.
What part of the description leads you to believe that FC3 is "less" user
friendly than Windows XP?
Since noobs can't repair either, since service packs can cause either to
not boot, what part is different?
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