Re: Windows XP Issue (Activation) III

From: Michael (Michael_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 02/02/05


Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:33:07 -0800

Oh, BTW Title 17; Sections 1201 - 1204 describe the circumvention of
copyright protection systems like XP's activation feature and the possible
civil and criminal penalties for same. While the sound pretty nasty they do
seem aimed mostly at the corp. world. It would take one pissed off
prossecutor do indict an individual for same although technically they could
if they wanted too.

"kurttrail" wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:29:55 +0100, Alias wrote:
> >> I agree with Woody. Kurtis' views are refreshing compared to the "MS
> >> said it. I believe it and that settles it" toadyism of some of the
> >> MVPs.
> >
> > I've been on Usenet since the early 80's and find that Kurt and the
> > people like him are what we call Trolls. They have a point, but, once
> > they've said it they can't stop and they never address the facts part
> > of a issue, they always divert from the issue when backed into a
> > corner. That's why I plonked his main posting ID.
> >
> > The only valid part of anything that he's posted is that Users can
> > install Win XP more than once and get away with it until MS does
> > something to home user pirates.
> >
> > The vendors license is clear, and so is the section of TITLE that he
> > spouts - one install per license,
>
> It says no such thing
>
> Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117: Limitations on exclusive rights:
> Computer programs
> (a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy.
>
> How does a law that allows ADDITIONAL Adaptations/Installations say
> anything one install per license. Hell, it doesn't even mention
> "license" at all.
>
>
>
> > backup copies are permitted as long
> > as they are only used for backup of the media, not to be installed at
> > the same time on any other computer/system.
> >
> > What his diatribe comes down to is that he doesn't like a vendor
> > forcing him to have to pay for software beyond the first copy and he
> > will make sure that everyone knows they can pirate additional copies
> > even if it violates the license agreement. In reality he's just
> > advocating simple theft, as use without purchase or approval by the
> > vendor takes money from the vendor and is theft to most reasonable
> > people in the world.
> >
> > If you want refreshing, switch to another OS where you are not
> > limited by a restrictive EULA.
> >
> > If you read the EULA and even look at Kurts posting of that Title,
> > it's clear that installing unlicensed copies is a direct violation of
> > the vendors EULA. I see no difference in his willful disregard
> > violation of a MS EULA and any other vendors EULA.
>
> Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117 Is a limitation on the rights of the
> software copyright owner, and a protection from infringement of the
> owner of a copy of software. Saying that it doesn't allow installing
> additional copies is a pure perversion of it's meaning!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
>
>



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