Re: Installing new motherboard
From: Jim Byrd (jrbyrd_at_spamlessadelphia.net)
Date: 02/27/05
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 08:51:31 -0800
Here's the explicit wording from:
https://oem.microsoft.com/script/ContentPage.aspx?pageid=552862
"Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on
your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the
original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an
upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.
An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
created and the license of new operating system software is required.
If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to
acquire a new operating system license for the PC.
The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user license
agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by that EULA. The
EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user by the PC manufacturer
and relates only to rights for that software as installed on that particular
PC. The System Builder is required to support the software on that
individual PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade their PC
with different components, Microsoft needed to have one base component "left
standing" that would still define that original PC. Since the motherboard
contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the motherboard
is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially created.
The original System Builder, therefore, can not be expected to support this
new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture."
-- Please respond in the same thread. Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP In news:pan.2005.02.27.14.52.36.302105@nowhere.lan, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> typed: > On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:39:59 -0800, Michael Stevens wrote: > >> In news:pan.2005.02.27.14.13.33.691552@nowhere.lan, >> Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> respectfully replied ;-) >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:52:54 +0100, Alias wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote >>>>> >>>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote >>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:39:58 -0700, Bruce Chambers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the MS site, they clearly explain that >>>>>>>> they define the "Computer" as the motherboard - what's so hard >>>>>>>> about understanding MS's definition as it relates to their >>>>>>>> licensing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By that reasoning, we must all starting believing that the world >>>>>>> is flat, just because there's a web site that says so. >>>>>>> (http://www.flat-earth.org/) Something posted on Microsoft's >>>>>>> web site is irrelevant. The only >>>>>>> documentation/agreement/contract binding upon the consumer is >>>>>>> the EULA. If Microsoft really wants the OEM license to be >>>>>>> bound to any single specific hardware component, they need to >>>>>>> change the EULA. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can only restate what is listed on the MS site concerning OEM >>>>>> software, that MS considers the computer to be the motherboard - >>>>>> and if you think about it, the most descriptive/defining part in >>>>>> every computer system is the motherboard. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Are people agreeing to the website to get their product to >>>>> function, or the EULA in the software? >>>> >>>> Notice that back pedaling Leythos won't quote the URL because it >>>> doesn't apply to an End User. >>> >>> No Alias, I "didn't" quote the site by providing the URL because >>> I've been there several times, even posted the information about >>> it, and you've said you won't read it since it means you have to >>> register to see it. As it's fairly obvious to anyone that really >>> cares or doesn't have some anti-ms agenda I don't see the need to >>> go back to the site, search through the various links/pages and >>> then paste another link you won't read. I didn't bookmark the site, >>> I didn't really think it was that important since anyone that cares >>> can find it too. >> >> The one thing you seem to be ignoring is MS seems to be granting >> activations on swapped Motherboards as long as it is only install >> once. I haven't seen anyone post that they werer denied activation. > > Actually, if that was directed at me, I've even posted that I've had > them activate MS Office 2003 after I used the wrong key (from the > action pack). I've also posted that the call center has activated > many OEM XP installs after changing parts/motherboards. What I have > clearly said is that the OEM site states that the computer is the > motherboard and that replacement of the motherboard, except for > repair, invalidates the license according to the OEM information > provided on the MS Systems Builders site. What the people in the call > centers do is really up to them as they are human, but helpful, they > could just activate without any question as part of their normal > policy or as a generic thing that they decided to do on their own. > Read the Systems Builder site to get the "Official" position, since > only the statements they provide make any real difference.
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