Re: XP Pro NTFS or FAT32?
From: BuddyWh (root_at_localhost.)
Date: 02/20/05
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:50:50 -0500
On 20 Feb 2005 11:27:08 -0500, adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>In article <af5h11dg1a2hipvrvn3s3eeifoidoim8nm@4ax.com>,
>BuddyWh <root@localhost> wrote:
>>On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:10:48 -0500, Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>NTFS! It's a journaling file system, which means that it keeps track
>>>of what it's doing in a way that allows it to recover from system
>>>crashes.
>>
>>
>>I have had that situation before... NT crashed, is corrupt and won't
>>start but there is NO WAY for me to simply boot to a DOS disk,
>>navigate the NTFS directories in command line and copy out the
>>files/directories I want to recover, then format and re-install. That
>>caused me no end of grief trying to figure out how to get my files
>>out.
>
>
>You can boot the XP CD and go into repair mode. There is a command
>prompt and yo can copy files to another dis, but I've never tried that.
THAT is what I was not able to do. I could navigate to the
directories and read the directory, but I could not copy large
directory structures; the copy command was very limited and there was
no xcopy facility at all.
I recall there are a slew of utilities that a tech, armed with
complete knowledge of the Win2k resource kit, could use to repair the
Win2k installation. Fat chance I'd be able to! I just wanted my
files... and I'd re-install Win2k on the new hard drive and be happy!
I remember using a third party utility called NTFSDOS, though that
enabled me to read NTFS partitions in DOS. I can't remember to well
what it's limitations were, but I know it didn't do everything I
wanted.
>
>You can put a non-bootable disk in a good XP machine as a secondary
>disk and recover all your files.
>
>You might have heard of Linux. :-) Any bootable Linux CD will let you
>copy NTFS files to othe rmedia or over the network.
Excellent idea... but then, if I had such knowledge of Linux, I'd
probably drop using Windows except in a dual-boot mode when I had to
work with office app's. But, I know next to nothing... and simply
don't have the time or drive to learn and Windows does work well
enough... as you say below, it's only when sh*t happens that I curse
NTFS!
>
>last of all, sh*t happens, but it happend much much less on an NTFS
>file system. I'm amazed by the number of .CHK files I see in the root
>of old FAT32 C drives. People don't even know they are there until
>they call me. That NEVER happens on NTFS.
I know what you mean... I recall my Win98SE autoexec had a line in it
to delete them and write out a list to a log. But then I never
noticed CHK files accumulating in my Win2k system when I ran FAT32. I
wonder if the rest of the OS has something to do with that?
>
>
>
>>
>>I'm sure that there are plenty of specialized tools and utilities that
>>can be purchased, plus a lot of extra training, but why should I have
>>to? Everything should be furnished with the OS and what could be
>>simpler than DOS? If using FAT32 I only need a Win98SE boot disk and
>>a second IDE hard drive to xcopy the recovered files too.
>>
>>
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