Re: Eula being challenged

From: Steve N. (me_at_here.now)
Date: 02/19/05


Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:56:50 GMT

DJ Borell wrote:

> "Woody" <blah@blah.net> wrote in message
> news:%23f3EUihFFHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
>>do you REALLY think so ? i wish i was that optomistic
>>
>
>
> Yeah, I am. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think capitalism will always win out in
> the end. And, if capitalism wins out, then consumerism has won out. And
> consumerism is what drives development. Just a long chain of events where,
> eventually, the companies that want to stay competitive produce what the
> majority of people want. That's how MS got where it is today. And if they
> want to stay that way, they'll continue to produce what's wanted - maybe not
> by everybody, but by most people.
>
>
>>yup , replying to this on my laptop on which i just installed SuSE linux
>
>
> Don't get me wrong...I'm actually glad to hear you're using SuSE
> successfully. To be honest, I'm currently triple-booting my laptop with XP
> Pro, XP x64 and SuSE 9.2. I was immensely impressed with how easily SuSE
> loaded on my laptop, and haven't had any serious problems with it. But, and
> this is a big but, I just don't think it's ready for prime time yet. There
> remain too many issues with cross-platform compatibility to work out and too
> many instances where a user just *has* to go to a terminal window.

So, what's the difference from Windows in these regards? There are often
hardware compatibility and cross-platform issues/problems in Windows.
And what's the essencial difference between having to use the command
line in Windows and opening a terminal window in Linux?

As far as prime time readiness of Linux goes probably the biggest
obstacle is in getting a stable GUI, but as Apple has shown with OSX it
can definitely be done.

> I don't
> think the average end-user wants to do that. Try, for example, to get a
> wireless NIC up and running. Sometimes, it's easy. Most times, though, it
> requires at least some amount of tinkering. And in some cases, it requires
> getting down and dirty with the kernel.

Since the kernel went modular this is less and less of an issue. And
again, what's the essencial difference between having to tinker with the
kernel and tinkering with Windows OS in some cases? And at least in
Linux you have the ability and right to recompile the kernel if you
want/need to. Not true of Windows. The only tinkering with the core OS
is reserved for hotfixes and service packs. Still, they have to be done
sometimes.

> Compare that to Windows where, for
> the most part, though not every time by any means, it just works. The
> end-user doesn't care *why* or *how* -- they just want it to work and work
> consistently.

The times it doesn't stick out in my mind. But I'm grateful for that,
keeps me employed :)

>
> Denigrate MS as much as you want (and that's a general "you", not pointed at
> anyone specific) but I think they've gone a long way towards building the
> stability people are after. No easy feat considering the wide array of
> devices available.
>

The same can be said for Linux developers, they've come a long way and
there's always more road to travel for all OS development. I'm not
denigrating MS, I'm just trying to see things as they are and call `em
as I see `em.

Steve



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