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From: Freebie (SBFreemanAT_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 02/16/05 

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:17:46 -0500

Your prior post indicates that I will not be able to use an OEM CD to build
and roll back so that a retail copy can go with the machine. Did I misread
this? I only want to activate the retail copy if I have to use it to
configure the machine.

"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u2Ys7x$EFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "Freebie" <SBFreemanAT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BIKdnRfEC4-iF4_fRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> > It sounds like I would have both types and have a problem. If I install
> > the
> > Retail copy and don't activate it because the machine doesn't get sold
> > will
> > it (the retail copy) still be one I can sell with a differently
> > configured
> > machine?
>
> If you are going to sell this machine I thought you were goinng to build
it
> then using tools like SYSPRE roll back the setup so the new user can enter
> the product activationkey.
> Why are you now planning to activate it ?
>
> > In otherwords, can I just install and configure the retail copy
> > that is going out with the machine and save activation to the last
moment.
>
> Once installed you have a period of time to activate after which time the
> logon process is disrupted until the machine is activated - if you sell
the
> machine like this the new user will not have a good user experience.
>
> > Then if the machine doesn't sell and is torn down for parts can I
> > reinstall,
> > activate and resell the retail copy?
> >
>
> Yes ONLY if it is a retail copy. Unless you are going to become a proper
> OEM System Builder.
>
> > I'm a noob when it comes to resale. Any advice you have would be
> > appreciated.
>
> The Best advice if you are going to make a business out of this is to go
to
> the link Carey provide to become a proper OEM system builder.
> You may also need an accountant and possibly a lawyer. Also be advised
that
> if you do become a System Builder you will be responsible for the
provision
> of operating system support to the end users if you are pre-installing OEM
> media. If you use Retail media then there is no requirement for OS
support
> although you may be liable for support fo the hardware system.
>
> > I've built systems for others but always did it with a new
> > retail copy for people that had pretty specific requests for special
> > hardware. This person doesn't know enough to know what he needs so I may
> > just have to buy some hardware and risk that he'll jump at it once it's
> > built. The hardware will recycle well to my own computer at some point
but
> > I'm not keen on having an extra copy of Windows.
> >
> > Scott
>
> I am confused by what you are trying to do here. Are you getting into the
> business of building and reselling system with our OS preinstalled in
which
> case you are getting into the OEM System Builder space.
> Or are you just building the odd system or your friends or is this still
for
> sale to third parties ?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights
>
> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
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>
> "Freebie" <SBFreemanAT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BIKdnRfEC4-iF4_fRVn-qg@comcast.com...
> > It sounds like I would have both types and have a problem. If I install
> > the
> > Retail copy and don't activate it because the machine doesn't get sold
> > will
> > it (the retail copy) still be one I can sell with a differently
> > configured
> > machine? In otherwords, can I just install and configure the retail copy
> > that is going out with the machine and save activation to the last
moment.
> > Then if the machine doesn't sell and is torn down for parts can I
> > reinstall,
> > activate and resell the retail copy?
> >
> > I'm a noob when it comes to resale. Any advice you have would be
> > appreciated. I've built systems for others but always did it with a new
> > retail copy for people that had pretty specific requests for special
> > hardware. This person doesn't know enough to know what he needs so I may
> > just have to buy some hardware and risk that he'll jump at it once it's
> > built. The hardware will recycle well to my own computer at some point
but
> > I'm not keen on having an extra copy of Windows.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23P%23Cwm6EFHA.2784@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> "Freebie" <SBFreemanAT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:r9qdnReOy8Z89I_fRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
> >> > Thanks for the info. This sounds like what I want to do. Can you
> >> > clarify
> >> > "As
> >> > long as the types of CD used are the same"? Are all XP Pro CDs the
> >> > same?
> >> > Scott
> >>
> >> As regards what you want to do there are 2 type of XP CD the OEM CD or
> >> the
> >> retail one (big blue or green box).
> >> If you intend to install the machine and then roll back to allow for
the
> > new
> >> user to enter their key you must use the same media as the one you
supply
> >> the new user.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> --
> >> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >>
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights
> >>
> >> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
> >> newsgroups
> >>
> >> "Freebie" <SBFreemanAT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:r9qdnReOy8Z89I_fRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
> >> > Thanks for the info. This sounds like what I want to do. Can you
> >> > clarify
> >> > "As
> >> > long as the types of CD used are the same"? Are all XP Pro CDs the
> >> > same?
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> > message
> >> > news:Oop0462EFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> "Freebie" <SBFreemanAT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:DomdnRA6JtPfmI_fRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Hi:
> >> >> > I'm considering building a system for resale. Is there a way I can
> > load
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > configure my copy of windows in the machine and then when the
> >> >> > machine
> >> >> > sells
> >> >> > add in a retail copy of WinXPpro activate the retail copy with the
> >> >> > machine?
> >> >> > I do not want to install or activate the retail copy until I know
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > machine is going to be sold but want to have the machine set up
and
> >> >> > configured just before the sale. How can I learn more about
> > installing
> >> >> > Windows on machines for resale? Thanks.
> >> >> > Scott
> >> >>
> >> >> As long as the types of CD used are the same - one to build and one
to
> >> > sell
> >> >> with it.
> >> >> You can use SYSPREP and all the documentation in the deploy.cab and
> >> >> the
> >> >> other files in the SUPPORT\TOOLS folder on the CD.
> >> >> This will allow you to build the PC with media and then unroll the
> > setup
> >> > to
> >> >> the point of the new user entering the product key etc.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >> >>
> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> >> rights
> >> >>
> >> >> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
> >> >> newsgroups
> >> >>
> >> >> "Freebie" <SBFreemanAT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:DomdnRA6JtPfmI_fRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Hi:
> >> >> > I'm considering building a system for resale. Is there a way I can
> > load
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > configure my copy of windows in the machine and then when the
> >> >> > machine
> >> >> > sells
> >> >> > add in a retail copy of WinXPpro activate the retail copy with the
> >> >> > machine?
> >> >> > I do not want to install or activate the retail copy until I know
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > machine is going to be sold but want to have the machine set up
and
> >> >> > configured just before the sale. How can I learn more about
> > installing
> >> >> > Windows on machines for resale? Thanks.
> >> >> > Scott
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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