Re: MS Antispyware

From: kurttrail (dontemailme_at_anywhereintheknowuniverse.org)
Date: 02/15/05 

Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:36:25 -0500

Ken Gardner wrote:
> kurttrail wrote:
>
>> All good and fine for you, just don't make it sound like MS
>> Antispyware Beta is ready for the AVERAGE USER, because no average
>> user has the knowledge to deal with beta software.
>
> Incidentally, have you tried it for any period longer than a few days?
> It is an excellent program, as antispyware programs go -- by far the
> best one that I have tried, and I have tried about four of them in the
> last eight months. As for it being a beta program, it is essentially
> the same program that Giant Software used to sell, at least until
> Microsoft acquired Giant. I haven't had a single problem with it, and
> I have now been using it for about two months if not longer.
>
> As for AVERAGE USERS, I can go one better. My brother is not an
> AVERAGE USER, but a WAY BELOW AVERAGE COMPLETE COMPUTER DUMBASS WHO
> LET HIS TEENAGE DAUGHTER INSTALL KAZAA AND OTHER CRUDWARE, but he
> hasn't had a single problem with his computer since I installed the
> Microsoft beta (including real scan mode) for him along with Ad-Aware.
> Before then, spyware would bring his computer to its knees every two
> weeks or so. I would spend my first two hours simply trying to get
> the thing under my control. Traditional tools, such as Spybot and Spy
> Sweeper, didn't do the job. Using MS, his machine is now free of the
> crudware (which was fully removed -- with extreme prejudice -- using
> the MS software).
>
> I also used the MS software to clean up spyware on a second machine
> (this person's problems were much more manageable), with similar
> results.
>
>> Most of them don't know what regedit is, let alone how to remove all
>> the broken entries it leaves behind. And this group has a lot of
>> average users lurking around.
>
> Incidentally, assuming that MS does leave broken registry entries (as
> do most software programs when you uninstall them -- this problem
> isn't limited to Microsoft software, to put it mildly), have they had
> any transparent, measurable impact on computer performance or
> stability? I seriously doubt it.
>
>> And as for:
>>
>> "I have found the MS beta antispyware program to be an excellent
>> piece of software -- even though it is still in beta, it is much
>> better than the others that I have tried."
>
>> The goodness or badness of a spyware cleaner is in the prevention,
>> detection, and clean up of spyware, and you say that MS Antispyware
>> "hasn't detected spyware of any kind on my machine."
>
> Right, but...
>
>> If MS Antispyware hasn't prevented, detected, or cleaned up any
>> spyware on your system, presumably because you know how to stay away
>> from it in the first place, how in the effin' world would you know
>> how good it really is?
>
> Because I used it to clean up my brother's machine, and only after
> installing and using it did his spyware problems come to a complete
> end. Ditto for the other person I mentioned. It does exactly what
> it is supposed to do, and does it well. This software and Ad Aware
> are the only two pieces of software in this category that I would
> recommend without any qualification.
>
> Ken

Recommend beta software! But when some false positive ends up screwing
with other programs for your brother and friend, have fun! 

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