Re: I switched to Firefox because--Solved
From: Philippe L. Balmanno (plb2862_at_cox.net)
Date: 02/06/05
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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:59:12 -0800
Vanguard wrote:
> "Philippe L. Balmanno" <plb2862@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:6dqNd.4600$Tt.976@fed1read05...
>
>> Mark wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2005 9:34 AM, Frank Saunders, MS-MVP:
>>>
>>>> "Mark" <mark@anywhere.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:eUcyUOFDFHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/2005 8:52 AM, Frank Saunders, MS-MVP:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "map444" <map444@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1813EC26-81FC-4221-AEC6-6F4E1898B490@microsoft.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found that using IE6 I could not access Microsoft Newsgroups. I
>>>>>>> switched to Firefox and it worked temporarily. I found that the
>>>>>>> problem was improper use of the .net passport sign in. I got into
>>>>>>> my .net passport profile, signed out and clicked not to be
>>>>>>> remembered. I had to do this for both Firefox and IE6. I can now
>>>>>>> access the newsgoups on both browsers. I believe I had the problem
>>>>>>> because I had not been signing out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a faster interface to the newsgroups,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ... and faster virus/trojans/spyware infections ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> in Outlook Express go to Tools
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Accounts | Add (or New) | News.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set up an account for this news server:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> msnews.microsoft.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The server is free and does not require you to logon. This news
>>>>>> server carries over 2200 newsgroups related to Microsoft products
>>>>>> and keeps messages at least 30 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For more detail see
>>>>>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Use: http://www.mozilla.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are ignorant, aren't you? I have been using OE for at least
>>>> seven years and have never gotten a virus/trojan/spyware infection.
>>>> Never got a notification that my anti-virus or anything else has
>>>> stopped one either.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, I am not ignorant. I and others just want security rather
>>> than insecurity.
>>
>> I agree it isn't ignorance if you are lucky. I changed because I
>> wanted speed and no more hang ups/stalls when marking news groups as
>> read. For example when I subscribe to a new news group OE downloads
>> headers and after reviewing the headers I usually mark the news group
>> as read.
>
>
> Sounds like you need to compact your .dbx files. Also, the more records
> you keep then the slower OE will be in enumerating new records,
> accessing them, and changing their status. Thunderbird may indeed be
> quicker in its database mechanism but basically it sounds like you've
> become a pig and let your .dbx files for Outlook Express get excessively
> huge. It is doubtful that you need any records over a month old and
> probably not even over 2 weeks old. You can Google Groups for old
> articles. Define a rule to delete messages that are over N days old. It
> won't apply when you download new messages but occasionally you should
> run it manually to mark old items with a status of deleted. Then run a
> compact to purge the delete-marked items from the database files. When
> OE gets slow, it is because it has to do a lot of reindexing.
>
>> IE requires too many additional add-ins for pop-up blockers and too
>> many people have created these self installing search toolbars and not
>> one of these have attached themselves to Firefox.
>
>
> Yet the 3rd party add-ins to IE for popup blocking surpass what Firefox
> can manage to avoid. Take a look at PopUpCop which provides much more
> than just popup blocking. "Too many additional add-ins for pop-up
> blockers"? You make it sound like you need a plural of popup blockers.
> Just one suffices and obviously you don't want same-function utilities
> interferring with each other. "Self-installing search toolbars"? Well,
> if you are stupid enough to go opening any attachment you get in an
> e-mail, downloading just any freebie utility you happen to find without
> researching it, not configuring IE to prompt you for ActiveX downloads,
> and not saving a disk image to provide for recovery before installing
> software from an unknown and untrusted source then that was your choice
> to engage in unsafe hex. No browser can overcome the stupidity of its
> user.
>
> Yeah, Firefox doesn't support ActiveX. And, of course, no one could
> ever manage to go into IE's advanced options and disable ActiveX
> downloads and execution, either, or just configure IE to prompt when an
> AX download is requested. Yeah, right. I'm not saying Firefox isn't a
> good browser (except that users often complain about difficulties after
> trying to uninstall it, so it ranks with the old versions of Netscape
> when they were in a browser war with Microsoft about a decade ago), but
> many of the arguments are pretty stupid or misleading. Most Firefox
> users don't even realize all the bugs being reported and worked on for
> that product ()(http://snipurl.com/firefox_bugs_all), and that list is
> from a much smaller community of users and enthusiasts along with being
> a much less targeted browser by hackers.
>
"Sounds like you need to compact your .dbx files."
.dbx was never an issue as I have had no need to store messages.
Talking about my personnal PC. And my habits were read it delete etc...
NG were periodically filtered so anything over >30 days got deleted and
was compacted monthly.
"it sounds like you've become a pig and let your .dbx files for Outlook
Express get excessively huge."
Too presumptious and insulting to boot, there's no piggy here.
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