Re: FireWire install problem (& long saga)
From: Raymond J. Johnson Jr. (RayJay_at_nospam.org)
Date: 01/26/05
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:43:55 -0600
<junkmail608@verizon.net> wrote in message
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| I'm frustrated. I installed a new FireWire card in my PC; and I'm
| getting nothing. That's right, nothing. It isn't even detected,
| much less loading the correct drivers. Here's the whole sad saga
| from the beginning. If you want to skip down to the end, you won't
| miss much pertinent info; mostly this is just venting.
|
| Not being financially well endowed, I opted for a low price Sony analog
| HandyCam a couple years ago. At that time, digital was well beyond my
| means; and video editing wasn't even on my radar screen. Not long
| after however, I began to see the advantages and fun of working with
| desktop video. Having an analog camcorder, I needed a conversion tool,
| and I picked up a Dazzle DVC100. Analog in; digital out. Should have
| been great. Wasn't. The problem was, the drivers for the device
| seemed to be compatible with every operating system but mine, Windows
| 98SE.
|
| I tried everything, downloaded the latest drivers, contacted tech
| support, everything. No way, so I just abandoned the whole thing for a
| while, until my processor fortuitously self destructed. As long as
| I'm replacing the motherboard et al (Celeron 2.1), I may as well
| upgrade the OS too, I figure, and I bought Windows XP Home for
| installation on the rebuilt system. Lo and behold, the Dazzle now
| worked; and I managed a few nice projects before it stopped working.
| I don't know why. I can't figure out why; and of course, the
| DVC100 is no longer manufactured and Dazzle is now Pinnacle and there
| is no tech support anymore.
|
| I went through all of the usual steps. Uninstalling the device and
| drivers, downloading and installing the latest drivers, etc. Still
| nothing. The device appears to be functioning in the Device Manager;
| but neither Windows Movie Maker or MovieStar5 seem to be seeing the
| video signal correctly (neither composite nor S-video). It was
| especially frustrating because it almost works and actually did work at
| one time. After more time on this problem than any sane person would
| expend, I decided to chuck it all and go digital.
|
| Skip to here for the real question:
|
| So, while waiting for the arrival of my new MiniDV camcorder (still on
| a budget), I bought the FireWire card (Adaptec AFW-4300). I put it in
| an available PCI slot and booted up the PC, delightfully expecting the
| plug & play to do its thing. Nothing different happened; the PC booted
| up normally. No "new hardware detected"; no "installing the
| drivers for your new hardware", nothing. It was as if the card
| wasn't there. Checked the Device Manager looking for the IEEE Bus
| Controller; nothing there. Tried "install new hardware" from the
| Control Panel. Selected the IEEE 1394 Bus Controller device. Windows
| cannot locate drivers for this device. I'm screwed.
|
| For the next hour, I tried a few things that got me no closer to a
| resolution; but if I list them all, maybe it will help you deduce where
| my problem lies:
|
| 1. As recommended in the Adaptec installation guide I went to the
| Microsoft site to locate the latest drivers. I couldn't find
| anything under "downloads" and precious little in the knowledge
| base.
|
| 2. I powered down, removed the card, and moved it to a different slot.
| I had initially installed the card in a slot occupied by a modem card.
| The modem is no longer used (I'm DSL now), so I figured this was as
| good a time as any to yank it. Not only was it not used, however, I
| had previously disabled it in the Device Manager because it was
| conflicting with a video card installation. Apparently by disabling
| the modem, it freed up an IRQ (COM1/COM3) and allowed detection of the
| video card. (That's another long story and beyond my knowledge, but
| one thing at a time. If this is relevant in any way & you want more
| details, just ask.) So it occurred to me that this particular PCI slot
| might be inoperative because of disabling the modem, and I tried a
| different slot for the FireWire card. It didn't make any difference.
|
| 3. I tried looking for tech support and/or drivers on the Adaptec
| site. No help there. It just tells me that XP should have the drivers
| embedded. Thanks a lot. OTOH, it does mention five files that should
| be present for XP to install the 1394 drivers; but three of these files
| are not present on my PC:
| c:\windows\system32\drivers\1394bus.sys
| c:\windows\system32\drivers\enum1394.sys
| c:\windows\system32\drivers\ohci1394.sys
| I do have the XP disk; but I have not yet tried finding the drivers
| there (ran out of time last night).
|
| 4. In Device Manager, there is an "Unknown Device" listed under
| the USB devices. This may or may not be the FireWire card. I yanked
| out some of the USB cables (the known offenders - remote hub & card
| reader) to see if that device disappeared, but it remained. I have not
| yet tried removing all of the USB devices; but I suspect that the
| unknown device might be the FireWire card being erroneously detected.
|
| Given the history of problems with device detection and driver
| installation with this PC, I probably don't have just "normal"
| problems; but there seems to me to be two issues at work here. First,
| why doesn't the PC detect the new hardware? And second, where are my
| IEEE 1394 drivers?
|
| Thanks for any help,
| Joe F.
Sounds like the card is bad.
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