Re: Norton 2005

From: David Candy (.)
Date: 01/09/05


Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 04:53:35 +1100

Norton's bad press is by people who machines were screwed by norton's products (not necessarily AV), not it's virus catching behaviour.

I only look up viruses at Norton's site as they seem to know the most about viruses. It's just their programs are crap programs - designed by a marketing team.

Q I have a old game and my computer is too fast to play it?
A Install a Norton product.

A long time ago I used NU Dos V 6.0 (they restarted their versions at 10 - 6 was the last where exe were standalone and didn't require overlays [like dll but for dos]) and McAfee (whatever version). Making programs do more to increase the feature count (of useless features) and looking prety were NU's priorities.

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"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:%23AJ7xCn9EHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> In news:uPv83Bk9EHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
> Charles C. Drew <ccdrew11@hotmail.com> typed:
> 
>> What you are saying is true, but I don't know.  The odds do 
>> seem
>> higher with AVG than Norton.
>>
>> If one is free and the other can better afford to stay current 
>> at all
>> times because it gets paid, who do you think will have the most
>> current and complete list of virus signatures?  If one is used 
>> as a
>> stop-gap because something is better than nothing and the other 
>> is
>> use in corporation after corporation, which would you say is 
>> more
>> reliable?
> 
> 
> AVG is free for home use, but not for corporate use. Many 
> corporations use it.
> 
> I'm not trying to tell you that AVG is better, worse, or the same 
> as Norton. I happen to use Norton myself, and despite the 
> opinions of many other MVPs (and other) who I greatly respect, I 
> continue to use it because it's always worked well for me.
> 
> 
>> So far, I've never had an infection on a PC with Norton and a 
>> current
>> virus signature list.
> 
> 
> Nor have I.
> 
> 
>> I have with AVG.
> 
> 
> I've never used AVG, and can't comment on it.
> 
> 
>> True, I've not used AVG very
>> long nor do I have hundreds of PC to manage; but I've used 
>> Norton
>> since about 1996 and the only time I've seen a machine infected 
>> with
>> this software is when the virus list has been allowed to grow 
>> old.
> 
> 
> The experience of a single user, whether you or me, or even both 
> of us taken together hardly counts. Statistics are meaningful 
> only when you look at large numbers of users.
> 
> 
>> At the corporation I work which has over 48,000 employees and
>> contractors working for it, the only viruses that ever get in 
>> are
>> those that haven't been detected yet, and manage to pass 
>> through
>> firewalls, intrusion detection, email filters, etc.  These are 
>> only
>> the most virulent viruses.
>>
>> I can't speak for every other virus scanner software and there 
>> are
>> many, but can say I trust Norton far more than I do AVG.
> 
> 
> Your choice, of course. There are many other AVG users who 
> disagree with you. In my opinion (admittedly hearsay--but from 
> those whose opinions I trust), AVG does at least as good a job as 
> Norton). If Symantec were to go out of business tomorrow, and I 
> had to find another anti-virus product, AVG is one of those I 
> would definitely consider.
> 
> Again, however, I wasn't trying to tell you that AVG was better. 
> Despite my using and liking Norton, I was merely commenting that 
> your statement "I know of two people in my family alone who have 
> gotten viruses on their machines even with AVG running on their 
> machines" is not a good reason for the conclusion "Stick with 
> Norton." Statistics based on two examples are meaningless.
> 
> -- 
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
> 
> 
> 
>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:OXwhCqC9EHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>| In news:ebw5QR78EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
>>| Charles C. Drew <ccdrew11@hotmail.com> typed:
>>|
>>| > Unfortunately, I know of two people in my family alone who 
>>have
>>| > gotten
>>| > viruses on their machines even with AVG running on their
>>| > machines.
>>| > Stick with Norton.
>>|
>>|
>>| It's important to realize that no anti-virus program can be
>>| perfect. New virus definitions are added only after the new 
>>virus
>>| is already out there, infecting people. AV programs can
>>| substantially reduce the risk of getting infected, but never
>>| eliminate it entirely, no matter how diligent you are at 
>>keeping
>>| your virus definitions up to date.
>>|
>>| So regardless of what AV program you're talking about, there 
>>is
>>| always somebody who has gotten viruses even with it running on
>>| their machine. Your statement above is not a good reason to 
>>get
>>| rid of AVG and run Norton instead.
>>|
>>| --
>>| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>| Please reply to the newsgroup 
> 
>


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