Re: wuts so good about sp2??
From: DanS (t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t_at_a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a..n.e.t)
Date: 11/11/04
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:42:09 -0600
"=?Utf-8?B?TGluZGEgQg==?=" <Linda B@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> Wow, that was incredibly overstated... and incorrect. SP2 is a series
> of patches and fixes rolled into one, designed from the ground up to
> increase security in XP (most assuredly *not* a "completely new OS").
> The 'pro' is increased security, the 'con' is that some programs
> utilize methodology that SP2 deems "unsecure" -- therefore these
> applications won't function properly.
> Most designers have already released or are working on patches for
> their
> programs to make them work with SP2.
>
> In the end, it's a matter of preference. If you already operate your
> computer in an intelligent manner (keep it up to date, firewalled,
> AV'd, etc.), then you probably don't need SP2. If you're Joe Q. User
> who doesn't know all the ins and outs of his machine, SP2 may serve
> you well. Personally I never install a major update until it's been
> out in the field for 6-12 months, just to iron out all the bugs.
>
> Oh, and by the way: automatic update was available long before the
> release of SP2...
>
>
> "SlowJet" wrote:
>
>> Windows Xp with SP2 is a completely new OS.
>> Windows 2000 was based on NT (Not DOS or 9x)
>> Applications designed and coded for ancient OS's are only compatible
>> up to a point where the external Application code can not function
>> according to the new rules of the OS.
>>
>> Even as of yesterday, a post about he AGP driver, a VIA chipset
>> board. The fact of the matter is that MS had to tighten down the AGP
>> driver because several Video card makers were going off on their own
>> exploiting subtle parts of the standards.
>> The new AGP driver 3.5 standard is now in affect.
>> Of course the reply to the OP was hey do this and that and then,, the
>> old way and it will not work any more.
>>
>> So that's one example a driver standard change and they have changed
>> several times since 98, ME, and even 2000.
>>
>> Couple that with the fact that all DOS Windows, 9.x, and ME had no
>> security in the OS and the file system only had basic permissions
>> which could be overridden by any user.
>>
>> The facts are that many complaining are trying to use XP SP2 as if it
>> were still win 98 or me.
>> It is not and the majority of even new programs have not even yet
>> been written correctly for XP SP2 standards.
>>
>> This was not a whack for MS to make your life miserable, but rather a
>> long over due fix that was making the lives of millions miserable due
>> to errors, vulnerabilities, and lake of Internet security from the
>> exponential growth in methods to disrupt and crash thousands of
>> computers coming from all over the world.
>>
>> Everything has changed about computers for the SOHO user,
>> corporations and government have been running with the newer model
>> for years. Most of the SOHO users will not notice a difference
>> because they have newer computers with newer applications and use the
>> basic methods to compute (word processor, e-mail, browser, chat, file
>> download)
>>
>> The truth is that older hardware and older applications just are not
>> going to keep up much longer even though there are several
>> mechanisums in the Windows OS to accommodate the older standards, and
>> the OS can run unsecured and unprotected, it is a matter of time
>> before the system will get hosed up and need to be re-installed. (Not
>> to mention the spread of problems to others.)
>>
>> But the Windows XP with SP2, a two-way firewall, and AV, and a Adware
>> blocker, is once again stable, reliable, and safe from the Internet,
>> and secure from hackers and overrides.(Nothing is secure from bad
>> hardware.)
>>
>> If that's too good for someone then by all means do your own thing
>> but in the process it would benefit millions to state the truth of
>> why you are doing it, such as ignorance, jealousy, ego, self rightous
>> indignation, hatered for MS, etc) rather than saying the SP2 for XP
>> sucks, broke my old hardware, crashed my 5 year program, stops the
>> internet, can't write to my 4 year old disk(that's way to small) that
>> hasn't had more than 2 GB on it ever, etc.
>>
>> The truth is the users just don't know what they are doing and some
>> of them should have never arbitrary updated. However, there comes a
>> point in a culture when even the best intentions will still be
>> ignored by the masses (i.e. the America elections vs. the rest of the
>> world's people) and thus someone just has to say WHEN.
>>
>> WHEN was August 25th, 2004 and it was called Windows Automated
>> Update.
>>
>> The past is on the shelf, are you staying there with it or moving on
>> down the road?
>> Choice is good, but there are also bad choices from which we learn
>> life's lessons. And there is a time to take out the garbage and buy
>> new clothes.
>>
>> SJ
>> "keisuke" <keisuke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C9BBB12E-4978-44CE-A33B-0DCC3251ABCA@microsoft.com...
>> >i have a router, a good virus program, and i don't even use the
>> >windows
>> > firewall, what is so good about sp2?? there seems to be alot of
>> > problems with
>> > compatibility with other programs, and i have a startup problem or
>> > a freeze
>> > every so often. most of my friends don't have sp2, and they don't
>> > seem to have any issues... what are the consequences of
>> > uninstalling it??
>>
>>
>>
>
Thanks for stating this reply, it saved me a lot of time.
DanS
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