Re: Delayed loading of services?

From: BigMan (fn42551_at_fmi.uni-sofia.bg)
Date: 11/27/04 

Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:47:13 +0200

"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> "BigMan" <fn42551@fmi.uni-sofia.bg> wrote in message
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>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 + auto updates on and it seems to me that
>> some services get started too late. For example, when I logon and I try
>> to start any program I notice some delay while loading the program. When
>> I start Task Manager I can see the alg.exe, mmd.exe and mmc.exe processes
>> appear for a while and then disappear. Alg.exe and mmd.exe are the
>> processes of the Application Layer Gateway Service, Machine Debug Manager
>> respectively. I'm not sure what mmc.exe is. Anyway, isn't it strange for
>> services to load that late? I thought all services should start before
>> users may log in. Am I wrong?
>
> Alg.exe is the builtin firewall service. If you have your own firewall,
> use that, and Windows will turn that off. Machine Debugger is not needed
> at all (unless you debug java script). Disable it in services, and remove
> it from your startup, and it will save some resources. Mmc.exe is what you
> have running when you are viewing the services through Computer
> Management.
>
> As for services starting late; that may be because you have little memory
> to load them at startup, and they load when other services finish theirs
> at Windows boot up time.
>

Hmm, I think that 512MB RAM should be pretty enough for all services to
start up at boot time...
I checked the dependencies - Alg.exe does not depend on any service, and
mdm.exe depends on RPC only. Since RPC is a core service it must be up and
running long before I log in, and so mdm.exe has enough time to start up
too...
I've also noticed that other services (not included in Windows XP) also run
too late, e.g. WinRoute.exe. I've been working winth WinXP Pro for a couple
of years and this is the first time I've seen services loading that late ...
I've been administrating WinRoute for some months (on other PCs) and it
always started before users could log in (as a matter of fact all services
started at boot time on those PCs). I suspect some hardware problem or a e
driver interfering here.
Nevertheless it's fine to have a system that starts up that fast, I think
this is very peculiar and I with I knew the reason... Any ideas and comments
are welcome!

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