Re: Wesley Vogel Re: At my age I get paranoid.
From: Stryker (stryker_at_iwojima.com)
Date: 10/25/04
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:08:14 +0100
Hi Wes
I agree, it's an amazing situation but that's what happened and I could not
recover the missing USB drive until I restored to the previous settings.
Frankly I do not understand the dirty bit or what it really means. I've
never come across it before (computer user and builder since 1982) and don't
know why I've got the problem now. There is very little published
information and I am amazed that there is no effective way, aside from
CHKDSK if it works, of cleaning an affected drive since HD's have been
around for an awful long time. My first was a 20MB drive on an ISA card.
I have run all of the combinations of CHKDSK including the ones that you
suggest and only the C: partition responds as dirty and none of the variants
clean-up the drive. The C: drive is half of the 60GB internal Fujitsu HD
supplied with the Dell 5150 and only has 16.3MB on it 19 objects although
properties reports 163MB so I suspect that there is some system use. It has
been defragged by System Mechanic 5 and has no bad sectors.
Since there is no floppy disk on the Dell 5150 I am unable to use the
Fujitsu diagnostics.
My XP Pro+SP2 is on the D: drive with only the boot.ini file relevant on the
C: partition together with AVG 7.0 antivirus files. This situation came
about because I had dual boot XP Home (C: drive) and XP Pro+SP2 on the D:
drive and decided that I really did not need both so uninstalled XP Home.
Just a final note about the reg hack aftermath. There was an error message
that said that a system error had been detected and CHKDSK must be run at
start-up but it has not appeared again.
Everything works fine and I am very reluctant to consider a reformat and
reinstall just to get rid of the annoyance of CHKDSK running with every
boot-up but my instincts tell me that it should not happen and my paranoia
for sorting problems demands a solution.
I appreciate that there is no magical solution and also that I am taking up
time that you could probably use to better effect elsewhere so please let me
know if I am really being a nuisance and I will not post again on this
topic.
Best
Stryker
"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OznXlGruEHA.3900@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Stryker,
>
> I can't see how
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager
> BootExecute
> could be related to losing a USB hard drive.
> ----
> Check to see if each drive's dirty bit is set...
>
> Check Disk runs on every boot
>
> Autochk.exe is a version of Chkdsk that runs only before Windows XP
> starts. Autochk runs in the following situations:
>
> Autochk runs if you try to run Chkdsk on the boot volume.
> Autochk runs if Chkdsk cannot gain exclusive use of the volume.
> Autochk runs if the volume is flagged as dirty.
>
> This can happen if the drive's dirty bit is set.
> When a drive's dirty bit is set, autochk automatically
> checks the volume for errors the next time the computer is restarted.
>
> Replace X below with each drive letter.
>
> Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
>
> Type: fsutil dirty query X:
>
> Hit ENTER
>
> This will report whether the dirty bit is set.
> Volume X: is not dirty
> Volume X: is dirty
> [[If a volume's dirty bit is set, this indicates that the file system may
> be
> in an inconsistent state. The dirty bit can be set because the volume is
> online and has outstanding changes, because changes were made to the
> volume
> and the computer shutdown before the changes were committed to disk, or
> because corruption was detected on the volume. If the dirty bit is set
> when
> the computer restarts, chkdsk runs to verify the consistency of the
> volume.
>
> Every time Windows XP starts, Autochk.exe is called by the Kernel to scan
> all volumes to check if the volume dirty bit is set. If the dirty bit is
> set, autochk performs an immediate chkdsk /f on that volume. Chkdsk /f
> verifies file system integrity and attempts to fix any problems with the
> volume.]]
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> Wes
>
> In news:417cd0f4$0$1821$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com,
> Stryker <stryker@iwojima.com> hunted and pecked:
>> Hi Wes
>>
>> I did the reg hack to try to fix the constant running of chkdsk but I
>> am so glad that I backed up because I lost one of my 2 USB 2.0
>> external HD's and could only get it back by returning to the saved
>> settings.
>>
>> I will have to live with the problem which is on one half of my 60GB
>> HD (Fujitsu in Dell 5150 5 months old) as it would mean starting from
>> scratch which is a no go for me.
>>
>> Thank you for taking the trouble to explain things I really did
>> appreciate your help.
>>
>> Stryker
>
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