Re: ICS using XP and a HUB
From: Steve N. (me_at_here.now)
Date: 10/24/04
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:52:55 GMT
SlowJet wrote:
> The OP really did not supply enough info to determine if he is connecting to
> the net through the router also.
In the original thread he posted this:
> Hi,
> Last year I set up a network for a couple friends that wanted win98 to be
> the host computer and XP Home the client. They also wanted to share the dial
> up. It was my first time networking and in a couple days I had it working the
> way they wanted.
>
> Now, the Win98 machine has been upgraded to XP home too. I had to change
> the IP of the router because it was set at 192.168.0.1, whenever I tried
> enabling ICS I was told the host computer needed to be set to this. So, I
> changed the router to 192.168.0.20, the host is 192.168.0.1 and the client is
> 192.168.0.3.
>
> Both computers can successfully ping the router and each other as well as
> access files on one another. For some unknown, frustrating reason I cannot
> get the client to successfully access the internet through the host.
>
> I have gone here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/ics.mspx .
> And verified I did everything right. Everything on this page is exactly what
> I did. I know I should be able to log on to the internet now, but I can't.
> Since I am still quite new to networking I thought I would ask some of you
> kind folks to please lend me some guidance. I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Garry
Leading me to believe they're using Dialup, not broadband.
>
> If not, then he needs a hub and a gateway on the HOST. :)
Exzctly.
>
> Connecting two or more computers thru a router to the net makes each a
> separate internet connected computer and must therefore have it's two-way FW
> and AV and Adware blockers.
>
> With one HOST and a subnet on a hub, a front end FW and AV can be used. (Not
> with standing the newest internet goblins) but even so, the clients are more
> protected by being one step removed form the ISP connection.
>
> A router with a FW could be used to connect to the ISP and the HOST
> connected to that for added protection.
>
> The router being the HOST's gateway, the HUB being the clients gateway.
> This only complicates the HOST's FW open ports settings but it is what works
> best once it is set up.
>
> I do not have a router at the ISP connection but if I were to do that I
> would install a hardware FW / AV device.
> In lew of that, I run multiple FW's to insure the incoming ports are blocked
> when odd ball things occur.
>
> One computer is simple, two or more are called networking and the needs of
> one client is the same as 253 clients. The missing items being DHCP and DSN
> servers at the correct areas on the lan Gatways. There is usually only the
> ISP or the router, so a HUB needs a DHCP and DSN sever to supply the clients
> with non routed IP set. My 3rd part FW has that, so many hook up to the
> routers not knowing. If my understanding is correct, a web server on one
> client reference by anouter client would actually travle up to the ISP's DNS
> server and back, not be routed thru the LAN. That means port 80 outgoing
> would need to be open and thus the whole world can access the intranet webb
> limited only be the ISP. Change the web to run on the standard proxy port of
> 8080 and the other client couldn't see the intranet webb because the ip is
> non routable?
>
> I think many home net users have TCP/IP routing mixed up with NETBIOS file
> and print sharing.
> For many of them installing NETBUI off the cd would work better but that's
> another dozen threads. :)
>
> IMO
>
> SJ
>
>
> "CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
> news:ajxed.287751$up7.14682204@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
>
>>"Garry" <Garry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:CA5EDE54-DD59-44F4-8094-AEBC5AF38C29@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>Hi,
>>> I am sorry, I mislabled my hub as a router and apparently I shouldn't
>>>have. I have a hub, a DLink 614+.
>>
>>The DLink 614+ is a wireless ROUTER... although I think it may have been
>>discontinued or replaced by the 624.
It's only marketed in UK as far as I can find.
>>
>>You probably shouldn't need to bother with ICS. Just connect both PC
>>directly to the router.
>>
>>I believe the option to choose when running the XP network setup wizard is
>>"This machine connects to the internet via a hub" (something like that).
>>Ignore the error message about hubs not being secure - because you
>>actually
>>have a router not a hub.
>>
Steve
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