Re: Downloads and Spyware
From: Richard Urban (richardurbanREMOVETHIS_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 09/05/04
- Next message: SlowJet: "Re: Reinstallation Question"
- Previous message: Peter Hucker: "Re: Two local IP addresses, cannot see my own webserver!"
- In reply to: Pete Q: "Re: Downloads and Spyware"
- Next in thread: Pete Q: "Disregard last Post"
- Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ]
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:02:44 -0400
Didn't he give you "all" the information you need to continue on your own?
-- Regards: Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) "Pete Q" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:654201c49368$38e04440$a501280a@phx.gbl... > > Shenan-- > > Thanks for the response to the first part of my question > regarding whether virus software should be disabled. > > Do you have any input on the 2nd question related to > spyware? > >>-----Original Message----- >>Answers inline >> >>Pete Q wrote: >>> I had a few questions regarding the process to be >>> followed when installing programs or updates from >>> Microsoft, either from a CD or the internet >>> >>> 1) Should I disable my anti-virus and spyware >>> applications prior to installing these applications or > is >>> it better to download these to my desktop in order to >>> scan them for viruses and then disable the virs and >>> spyware applications before the actual install on my > stem? >> >>No. In most cases this is unnecessary and not > recommended. Although it can >>be true, I install updates/patches/etc on a daily basis > on many machines and >>have only once in so many years ever found it necessary > to disable the >>antivirus application in order to get an install to work > correctly. >> >> >>> I have heard some different comments from folks as to >>> whether this is needed. The reason I had originally > heard >>> to disable the virus and spyware apps is that some of >>> these items may impact the installation process. >>> >>> 2) My second question isn't so much related to > downloads >>> as so much spyware files. Yesterday I finally installed >>> Lavasoft Ad-aware on my system. Of course once I ran it >>> quite a few files were identified as potential spyware >>> files (somehwere around 600)! The problem is I am > pretty >>> much a novice when it comes to spyware and have no idea >>> as to whether I should be deleting the files. Some of >>> them are identified as Temp Internet files which I am >>> assuming I can go ahead and delete. Some others files >>> look like this: >>> >>> obj[1]=Process : C:\Program Files\Common >>> files\WinTools\WToolsS.exe >>> >>> obj[67]=Regkey : >>> > software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\uninstall\wintoo >>> ls >>> obj[68]=Regkey : system\controlset001 > \services\wintoolssvc >>> obj[69]=Regkey : system\controlset002 > \services\wintoolssvc >>> obj[70]=Regkey : >>> system\currentcontrolset\services\wintoolssvc >>> >>> >>> obj[15]=RegValue : >>> Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run >>> >>> >>> I got nervous when I started seeing things with "Reg > Key" >>> and "Reg Value". I ended up putting all the files in >>> Quarantine but I was hoping to get some advice for >>> the "novice user" as to some general guidelines as to > how >>> to know which files that are identified should be > deleted >>> without potentially impacting your opereating system. >>> >>> Thanks! (and sorry about this being so long) >>> >>> >>> Pete Q >> >>WTOOLS is the WORST - I doubt AdAware alone will get rid > of it. Both >>AdAware and Spybot Search and Destroy have features that > protect you from >>messing up - you can quarantine. But I would, in > general, say if it is >>found by AdAware or Spybot Search and Destroy - KILL > IT! It's bad. >> >>Having said that - I have further advice and will > increase the size of this >>thread GREATLY. In here you will find a section on > SPYWARE that you might >>find very useful - not that you won't find the rest > enlightnening as well... >> >>*WARNING* This is a LONG spill, all in plain text and > simplified so that >>even non-techs should be able to understand it. > Hopefully this will >>assist some people in not only repairing their systems, > but in making >>them faster and more stable tools for them to use. It > contains advice >>on many things, many considered "common knowledge" > to 'IT' people >>everywhere. It is split into major sections, hopefully > this will make >>it easier to navigate. *WARNING* >> >>If you don't wish to follow all of the advice > immediately, just want to >>get rid of your current dilemma, then you are welcome to > scroll down to >>the section titled >>"SPYWARE/ADWARE/POPUPS/HIJACKS", where your problem as >>stated should be resolved by the applications and > suggestions found in >>that section. If this helps solve your problem then I > again HIGHLY >>suggest you follow the rest of the advice below (matter > of fact, I >>suggest it either way.) >> >>Suggestions on what you can do to secure/clean your PC. > Every attempt >>has been made to be general and an assumption of > a "Windows" operating >>system is made here as well - although in some ways, > this could be >>adapted to any OS. >> >> >>GENERAL UPKEEP AND CLEANUP >>-------------------------- >> >>You should periodically defragment your hard drives as > well as check them >>for errors. >> >> How to Defragment your hard drives >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314848 >> >> How to scan your disks for errors >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315265 >> >> How to use Disk Cleanup >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310312 >> >>You should also empty your Internet Explorer Temporary > Internet >>Files and make sure the maximum size for this is small > enough not to cause >>trouble in the future. Empty your Temporary Internet > Files and shrink the >>size it stores to a size between 120MB and 480MB.. >> >>- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer. >>- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options. >>- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet > Files" section, do the >> following: >> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK) >> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk > space to use:" to >> something between 120MB and 480MB. (Betting it is > MUCH larger right >> now.) >> - Click OK. >> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all > offline contents" >> (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this > could take 2-10 >> minutes or more.) >>- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re- > open Internet >> Explorer. >> >>Uninstall any software you no longer use or cannot > remember installing >>(ask if it is a multi-user PC) - but only if you are > sure you do not >>need it and/or you have the installation media around to > reinstall if >>you need to. http://snipurl.com/8v6b may help you > accomplish this. >> >>If things are running a bit slow or you have an older > system >>(1.5GHz or less and 256MB RAM or less) then you may want > to look into >>tweaking the performance a bit by turning off some of > the memory >>using Windows XP "prettifications". The fastest method > is: >> >>Control Panel --> System --> Advanced tab --> > Performance section, >>Settings button. Then choose "adjust for best > performance" and you >>now have a Windows 2000/98 look which turned off many of > the annoying >>"prettifications" in one swift action. You can play with > the last >>three checkboxes to get more of an XP look without many > of the >>other annoyances. You could also grab and install/mess > with one >>(or more) of the Microsoft Powertoys - TweakUI in > particular: >> >>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xp > powertoys.mspx >> >>You should also verify that your System Restore feature > is enabled and >>working properly. Unfortunately, if seems to have > issues on occasion, >>ones that can easily be avoided by turning off/on the > system restore and >>make a manual restoration point as one of your periodic > maintenance tasks. >>This is particularly important right before installing > something major >>(or even minor if you are unsure what it might do to > your system.) >> >> Turn off System Restore. >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310405 >> >> Reboot. >> >> Turn on System Restore. >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310405 >> >> Make a Manual Restoration Point. >> http://snipurl.com/68nx >> >>(That, of course, will erase the previous restore point > you have.) >> >>Also, you should look into backing up your valuable > files and folders. >>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308422 >> >>And keep your original installation media (CDs, disks) > safe with their >>CD keys and such. Make backups of these installation > media sets as >>well and always use strong passwords. Good passwords > are those that >>meet these general rules (mileage may vary): >> >> Passwords should contain at least six characters, and > the character >> string should contain at least three of these four > character types: >> - uppercase letters >> - lowercase letters >> - numerals >> - nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !) >> >> Passwords should not contain your name/logon name. >> >> >>UPDATES and PATCHES >>------------------- >> >>** Side Note: *IF* you are about to install Service Pack > 2 (SP2) for >> Windows XP, I suggest you clean up your system > first. Uninstall any >> applications you do not use. Update any that you > do. Download the >> latest drivers for your hardware devices. Defragment > and run a full >> CHKDSK on your hard drives. Scan your system and > clean it of any >> Spyware/Adware/Malware and for Viruses and Trojans. > Below you will >> find advice and links to applications that will help > you do all of >> this. If this advice helps you, please - pass it > on. Print it, >> email it, forward it to anyone you think it might > help. A little >> knowledge might help prevent lots of trouble. >> >>This one is the most obvious. There is no perfect > product and any company >>worth their salt will try to meet/exceed the needs of > their customers and >>fix any problems they find along the way. I am not > going to say Microsoft >>is the best company in the world about this but they do > have an option >>available for you to use to keep your machine updated > and patched from >>the problems and vulnerabilities (as well as product > improvements in some >>cases) - and it's free to you. >> >> Windows Update >> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ >> >>Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get > the critical ones as >>you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you > see when >>selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the > next few days, >>go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), match > up the latest >>numbers you downloaded recently (since you started > noticing an issue) and >>uninstall them. If there was more than one (usually > is), install them back >>one by one - with a few hours of use in between, to see > if the problem >>returns. Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) > and can cause trouble >>like I mentioned - but as you can see, the solution > isn't that bad - and is >>MUCH better than the alternatives. >> >>Windows is not the only product you likely have on your > PC. The >>manufacturers of the other products usually have updates > as well. New >>versions of almost everything come out all the time - > some are free, some >>are pay - some you can only download if you are > registered - but it is best >>to check. Just go to their web pages and look under > their support and >>download sections. For example, for Microsoft Office > update, you should >>visit: >> >> Microsoft Office Updates >> http://office.microsoft.com/ >> (and select "downloads") >> >>You also have hardware on your machine that requires > drivers to interface >>with the operating system. You have a video card that > allows you to see on >>your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your > PCs sound output and >>so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the > latest downloadable >>drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always > (IMO) get the >>manufacturers hardware driver over any Microsoft > offers. On the Windows >>Update site I mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting > their hardware >>drivers - no matter how tempting. First - how do you > know what hardware >>you have in your computer? Invoice or if it is up and > working now - take >>inventory: >> >> Belarc Advisor >> http://belarc.com/free_download.html >> >>Once you know what you have, what next? Go get the > latest driver for your >>hardware/OS from the manufacturer's web page. For > example, let's say you >>have an NVidia chipset video card or ATI video card, > perhaps a Creative >>Labs sound card or C-Media chipset sound card... >> >> NVidia Video Card Drivers >> http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp >> >> ATI Video Card Drivers >> http://www.atitech.com/support/driver.html >> >> Creative Labs Sound Device >> http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/ >> >> C-Media Sound Device >> http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm >> >>As for Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP, Microsoft > has made this >>particular patch available in a number of ways. First, > there is the >>Windows Update web page above. Then there is a direct > download site >>and finally, you can order the FREE CD from Microsoft. >> >> Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP >> http://snipurl.com/8bqy >> >> Order the Free Windows XP SP2 CD >> http://snipurl.com/8umo >> >>Microsoft also have a bunch of suggestions, some similar > to these, >>on how to better protect your Windows system: >> >> Protect your PC >> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ >> >> >>FIREWALL >>-------- >> >>Let's say you are up-to-date on the OS (operating > system) and you have >>Windows XP.. You should at least turn on the built in > firewall. That will >>do a lot to "hide" you from the random bad things flying > around the >>Internet. Things like Sasser/Blaster enjoy just sitting > out there in >>Cyberspace looking for an unprotected Windows Operating > System and jumping >>on it, doing great damage in the process and then using > that Unprotected OS >>to continue its dirty work of infecting others. If you > have the Windows XP >>FW turned on - default configuration - then they cannot > see you! Think of >>it as Internet Stealth Mode at this point. It has other > advantages, like >>actually locking the doors you didn't even (likely) know > you had. Doing >>this is simple, some helpful tips for the SP2 enabled > firewall can be found >>here: >> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cablegu > y/cg0204.mspx >> >>If you read through that and look through the pages that > are linked from it >>throughout - I think you should have a firm grasp on the > basics of the >>Windows XP Firewall as it is today. One thing to note > RIGHT NOW - if you >>have AOL, you cannot use this nice firewall that came > with your system. >> Thank AOL, not Microsoft. You HAVE to configure > another one.. So we >>continue with our session on Firewalls... >> >>But let's say you DON'T have Windows XP - you have some > other OS like >>Windows 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT, 2000. Well, you don't > have the nifty built in >>firewall. My suggestion - upgrade. My next suggestion - > look through your >>options. There are lots of free and pay firewalls out > there for home users. >>Yes - you will have to decide on your own which to get. > Yes, you will have >>to learn (oh no!) to use these firewalls and configure > them so they don't >>interfere with what you want to do while continuing to > provide the security >>you desire. It's just like anything else you want to > protect - you have to >>do something to protect it. Here are some suggested > applications. A lot of >>people tout "ZoneAlarm" as being the best alternative to > just using the >>Windows XP FW, but truthfully - any of these > alternatives are much better >>than the Windows XP FW at what they do - because that is > ALL they do. >> >> ZoneAlarm (Free and up) >> http://snipurl.com/6ohg >> >> Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up) >> http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html >> >> Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up) >> http://www.agnitum.com/download/ >> >> Sygate Personal Firewall (Free and up) >> http://smb.sygate.com/buy/download_buy.htm >> >> Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$25 and up) >> http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/ >> >> BlackICE PC Protection ($39.95 and up) >> http://blackice.iss.net/ >> >> Tiny Personal Firewall (~$49.00 and up) >> http://www.tinysoftware.com/ >> >>That list is not complete, but they are good firewall > options, every one of >>them. Visit the web pages, read up, ask around if you > like - make a >>decision and go with some firewall, any firewall. Also, > maintain it. >>Sometimes new holes are discovered in even the best of > these products and >>patches are released from the company to remedy this > problem. However, if >>you don't get the patches (check the manufacturer web > page on occasion), >>then you may never know you have the problem and/or are > being used through >>this weakness. Also, don't stack these things. Running > more than one >>firewall will not make you safer - it would likely (in > fact) negate some >>protection you gleamed from one or the other firewalls > you run. >> >> >>ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE >>------------------ >> >>That's not all. That's one facet of a secure PC, but > firewalls don't do >>everything. I saw one person posting on a newsgroup > that "they had >>never had a virus and they never run any anti-virus > software." Yep - I used >>to believe that way too - viruses were something > everyone else seemed to >>get, were they just careless? And for the average joe- > user who is careful, >>uses their one to three family computers carefully, > never opening unknown >>email attachments, always visiting the same family safe > web sites, never >>installing anything that did not come with their > computer - maybe, just >>maybe they will never witness a virus. I, however, am a > Network Systems >>Administrator. I see that AntiVirus software is an > absolute necessity given >>how most people see their computer as a toy/tool and not > something >>they should have to maintain and upkeep. After all, > they were invented to >>make life easier, right - not add another task to your > day. You >>can be as careful as you want - will the next person be > as careful? Will >>someone send you unknowingly the email that erases all > the pictures of your >>child/childhood? Possibly - why take the chance? > ALWAYS RUN ANTIVIRUS >>SOFTWARE and KEEP IT UP TO DATE! Antivirus software > comes in so many >>flavors, it's like walking into a Jelly Belly store - > which one tastes like >>what?! Well, here are a few choices for you. Some of > these are free (isn't >>that nice?) and some are not. Is one better than the > other - MAYBE. >> >> Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$11 and up) >> http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/ >> >> Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$49.95 and up) >> http://www.kaspersky.com/products.html >> >> Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up) >> http://www.pandasoftware.com/ >> (Free Online Scanner: > http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/) >> >> AVG 6.0 Anti-Virus System (Free and up) >> http://www.grisoft.com/ >> >> McAfee VirusScan (~$11 and up) >> http://www.mcafee.com/ >> >> AntiVir (Free and up) >> http://www.free-av.com/ >> >> avast! 4 (Free and up) >> http://www.avast.com/ >> >> Trend Micro (~$49.95 and up) >> http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/personal.htm >> (Free Online Scanner: >> > http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp) >> >> RAV AntiVirus Online Virus Scan (Free!) >> http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/ >> >>Did I mention you have to not only install this > software, but also keep it >>updated? You do. Some of them (most) have automatic > services to help you >>do this - I mean, it's not your job to keep up with the > half-dozen or more >>new threats that come out daily, is it? Be sure to keep > whichever one you >>choose up to date! >> >> >>SPYWARE/ADWARE/POPUPS/HIJACKS >>----------------------------- >> >>So you must be thinking that the above two things got > your back now - you >>are covered, safe and secure in your little fox hole. > Wrong! There are >>more bad guys out there. There are annoyances out there > you can get without >>trying. Your normal web surfing, maybe a wrong click on > a web page, maybe >>just a momentary lack of judgment by installing some > software packages >>without doing the research.. And all of a sudden your > screen starts filling >>up with advertisements or your Internet seems much > slower or your home page >>won't stay what you set it and goes someplace unfamiliar > to you. This is >>spyware. There are a whole SLEW of software packages > out there to get rid >>of this crud and help prevent reinfection. Some of the > products already >>mentioned might even have branched out into this arena. > However, there are >>a few applications that seem to be the best at what they > do, which is >>eradicating and immunizing your system from this crap. > Strangely, the best >>products I have found in this category ARE generally > free. That is a trend >>I like. I make donations to some of them, they deserve > it! >> >>Two side-notes: Never think one of these can do the > whole job. >>Try the first 5 before coming back and saying "That did > not work!" >>Also, you can always visit: >> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm >>For more updated information. >> >> Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) >> http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html >> >> Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) >> http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ >> >> CWShredder (Free!) >> ** No longer updated as of July 29, 2004 - however, > still a great >> product and should still be ran ** >> http://www.softbasket.com/download/s_8114.shtml >> >> Hijack This! (Free) >> http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/ >> ( Tutorial: http://hjt.wizardsofwebsites.com/ ) >> >> SpywareBlaster (Free!) >> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html >> >> IE-SPYAD (Free!) >> https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm >> >> ToolbarCop (Free!) >> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/toolbarcop.htm >> >> Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) >> http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ >> >> Browser Security Tests >> http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ >> >> Popup Tester >> http://www.popuptest.com/ >> >> The Cleaner (49.95 and up) >> http://www.moosoft.com/ >> >>That will clean up your machine of the spyware, given > that you download and >>install several of them, update them regularly and scan > with them when you >>update. Some (like SpywareBlaster and SpyBot Search and > Destroy and >>IESPYAD) >>have/are immunization utilities that will help you > prevent your PC from >>being >>infected. Use these features! >> >>Unfortunately, although that will lessen your popups on > the Internet/while >>you are online, it won't eliminate them. I have looked > at a lot of options, >>seen a lot of them used in production with people who > seem to attract popups >>like a plague, and I only have one suggestion that end > up serving double >>duty (search engine and popup stopper in one): >> >> The Google Toolbar (Free!) >> http://toolbar.google.com/ >> >>Yeah - it adds a bar to your Internet Explorer - but its > a useful one. You >>can search from there anytime with one of the best > search engines on the >>planet (IMO.) And the fact it stops most popups - wow - > BONUS! If you >>don't like that suggestion, then I am just going to say > you go to >>www.google.com and search for other options. Please > notice that Windows XP >>SP2 does help stop popups as well. Another option is to > use an alternative >>Web browser. I suggest "Mozilla Firefox", as it has > some great features >>and is very easy to use: >> >> Mozilla Firefox >> http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ >> >>One more suggestion, although I will suggest this in a > way later, is to >>disable your Windows Messenger service. This service is > not used frequently >>(if at all) by the normal home user and in cooperation > with a good firewall, >>is generally unnecessary. Microsoft has instructions on > how to do this for >>Windows XP here: >> >>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/commun > icate/stopspam.asp >> >> >>SPAM EMAIL/JUNK MAIL >>-------------------- >> >>This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get > 50 emails in one >>sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What > can you do? Well, >>although there are services out there to help you, some > email >>servers/services that actually do lower your spam with > features built into >>their servers - I still like the methods that let you be > the end-decision >>maker on what is spam and what isn't. If these things > worked perfectly, we >>wouldn't need people and then there would be no spam > anyway - vicious >>circle, eh? Anyway - I have two products to suggest to > you, look at them >>and see if either of them suite your needs. Again, if > they don't, Google is >>free and available for your perusal. >> >> SpamBayes (Free!) >> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ >> >> Spamihilator (Free!) >> http://www.spamihilator.com/ >> >>As I said, those are not your only options, but are > reliable ones I have >>seen function for hundreds+ people. >> >> >>DISABLE (Set to Manual) UNUSED SERVICE/STARTUP APPS >>--------------------------------------------------- >> >>I might get arguments on putting this one here, but it's > my spill. There are >>lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on > by default you don't >>use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to > see what all of the >>services you might find on your computer are and set > them according to your >>personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and > take heed and write >>down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large > performance increase >>or anything - especially on today's 2+ GHz machines, > however - I look at >>each >>service you set to manual as one less service you have > to worry about >>someone exploiting. A year ago, I would have thought > the Windows Messenger >>service to be pretty safe, now I recommend (with > addition of a firewall) >>that most home users disable it! Yeah - this is another > one you have to >>work for, but your computer may speed up and/or be more > secure because you >>took the time. And if you document what you do as you > do it, next time, it >>goes MUCH faster! (or if you have to go back and re- > enable things..) >> >> Task List Programs >> > http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm >> >> Black Viper's Service List and Opinions (XP) >> http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm >> >> Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP >> http://www.reger24.de/prozesse/ >> >>There are also applications that AREN'T services that > startup when you start >>up the computer/logon. One of the better description on > how to handle these >>I have found here: >> >> Startups >> http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php >> >> >>That's it. A small booklet on how to keep your computer > secure, clean of >>scum and more user friendly. I am SURE I missed > something, almost as I am >>sure you won't read all of it (anyone for that matter.) > However, I also >>know that someone who followed all of the advice above > would also have less >>problems with their PC, less problems with viruses, less > problems with spam, >>fewer problems with spyware and better performance than > someone who didn't. >> >>Hope it helps. >> >>-- >><- Shenan -> >>-- >>The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you > research for >>yourself before you take any advice - you are the one > ultimately >>responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know > what you are >>getting into before you jump in with both feet. >> >> >>. >>
- Next message: SlowJet: "Re: Reinstallation Question"
- Previous message: Peter Hucker: "Re: Two local IP addresses, cannot see my own webserver!"
- In reply to: Pete Q: "Re: Downloads and Spyware"
- Next in thread: Pete Q: "Disregard last Post"
- Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ]