Re: Shared Folder NIGHTMARE!!!!

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From: Jason G (msft-ngroups_at_zz9.biz)
Date: 09/05/04 

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 08:45:01 -0700

Hi again,

Well the inconsistency is what really concerns me.

If one system can attach to a share using an identity then another should be
able to attatch to the same share with the same identity - are we saying that:

1) your server ISN'T using simple file sharing
2) all of your 'clients' are using different login names and passwords,
which are not replicated on the server
3) they can all (except 1?) attatch to the same share and access all files
in the same way without problems?

If so I would suggest removing the File & Printer sharing for Microsoft
networks (on the server) and then re-adding it, because somerhing in there
has got screwed up!

Let me know how you get on.

Jason

"Darren M Taylor" wrote:

> Hi Jason
>
> It's strange because this 'security issue' appears only to take place in one
> direction and only between certain computers.
> I don't have the 'server' username registered to PC2 and yet i can see it's
> shared folders....
> So if this is a security issue, how do i resolve it?
>
> Darren
>
>
> "Jason G" <msft-ngroups@zz9.biz> wrote in message
> news:498D41AA-AE62-460B-9CD3-79C0400E00A7@microsoft.com...
> > HI Darren,
> >
> > Well - I think we've nailed the problem to a security issue, rather than
> > anything else.
> >
> > I'm afraid I don't use the 'names on the startup screen' type of logon, so
> > I
> > can't advise how to get rid of some names and leave others, sorry. You
> > could
> > try to change some of the group memberships.
> >
> > Your alternative is to setup the same user on all the other machines as on
> > the 'server'.
> >
> > Post back or email me if you are still haveing problems or have any more
> > issues.
> >
> > ttfn,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >
> >> OK....
> >> have gotten a little further
> >> I created a user account on server using the same username/password as
> >> the
> >> person using PC2.
> >> VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto PC2
> >> under
> >> a different user name.
> >> The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the logon
> >> screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT)
> >> Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, but
> >> remove
> >> the name from the logon screen?
> >> That would ceratinly solve the problem.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ross Durie" <rdurie@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
> >> news:S1u_c.21892$N77.954258@news.xtra.co.nz...
> >> > This behaviour is by design which makes me wonder how you had file
> >> > sharing
> >> > working between multiple computers in the first place. See
> >> > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ross
> >> > "Darren M Taylor" <darren@NOSPAMthemansionhouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> >> > message news:OUQ3LNtkEHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi Jason
> >> >>
> >> >> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem...
> >> >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY
> >> >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the
> >> > shared
> >> >> folder on 'server'
> >> >> the account i created used the same username and password that i am
> >> >> using
> >> > on
> >> >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same
> >> >> username as i use on the 'server'
> >> >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder...
> >> >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on
> >> >> another
> >> >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders.
> >> >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION???
> >> >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything
> >> >> i
> >> >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn.
> >> >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> ARGGGHHHHHHH
> >> >>
> >> >> PLEASE HELP......
> >> >>
> >> >> YOURS
> >> >>
> >> >> frustrated!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" <darren@NOSPAMthemansionhouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> >> >> message news:%23I2RW7skEHA.1904@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Hi Jason
> >> >> >
> >> >> > OK....i'll try and follow that.
> >> >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername
> >> >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't
> >> > accepted
> >> >> > and it didnt work.
> >> >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > see the shared folders on the server???
> >> >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop,
> >> >> > both
> >> > of
> >> >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!!
> >> >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing
> >> >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a
> >> >> > different matter!!!!
> >> >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup).
> >> >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other
> >> >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Darren
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Jason G" <msft-ngroups@zz9.biz> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:7A560490-E0B2-4F84-945C-DEB21E1E1F2D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> Hi again Darren,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP
> >> >> >> address
> >> >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't
> >> > using
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> file, thats fine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may
> >> > suggest
> >> >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> server
> >> >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a
> >> >> >> password?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If you try
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> net use \\servername /user:username
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> name
> >> >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will
> >> > probably
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other
> >> >> >> access
> >> >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does
> >> > work
> >> >> >> then
> >> >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client
> >> >> >> PC
> >> > to
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that
> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> match
> >> >> >> across systems!)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jason
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare.
> >> >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder
> >> >> >>> problem...
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very
> >> > happily.
> >> >> >>> All
> >> >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no
> >> >> >>> problems
> >> >> >>> at
> >> >> >>> all.
> >> >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until
> >> >> >>> recently
> >> > were
> >> >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it
> >> >> >>> has
> >> >> >>> most
> >> >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network)
> >> >> >>> which
> >> >> >>> will
> >> >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared
> >> >> >>> folders/printers.
> >> >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed
> >> >> >>> all
> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck
> >> >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed
> >> >> >>> on
> >> > the
> >> >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders.
> >> >> >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little
> >> >> >>> further
> >> >> >>> forward.
> >> >> >>> Basically, if i use the
> >> >> >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the
> >> >> >>> shared
> >> >> >>> folder
> >> >> >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network
> >> >> >>> drive.
> >> > BUT
> >> >> >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will
> >> >> >>> not
> >> >> >>> work
> >> >> >>> that way.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file
> >> >> >>> sharing,
> >> >> >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help
> >> >> >>> coz
> >> > i
> >> >> >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Many TIA
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> D
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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>

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