Re: Double popup not blocked?
From: Richard A. Landkamer (ralandka_at_pdq.net)
Date: 09/23/04
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:03:16 -0500
You make an interesting case regarding freeware pop-up blockers.
I tried the Google pop-up blocker, and it was worthless. In my case,
I think I could live with the Windows XP Pro SP2 Pop-up Blocker if
Microsoft would fix "Ctrl to override" in the "High: Block all pop-ups"
setting, so that I could simply hit the Ctrl key whenever I wanted to see
the pop-up. Instead, when I hit the Ctrl key with the "High: Block all
pop-ups" setting, I always get a new window with my home web page.
I have found that if I use the "Medium: Block most automatic pop-ups"
setting in the new Windows XP Pro SP2 Pop-up Blocker, I still get
some unwanted pop-ups from some aggressive web sites that send you
unwanted pop-ups. So I have tried using the "High: Block all pop-ups
{Ctrl to override}" setting. Again, the problem with this latter setting is
that when I hit "Ctrl to override" and allow the pop-up, I never get the
requested pop-up. Instead, I always get a new home web page, which
renders this option useless. I am surprised that Microsoft would release
a Pop-up Blocker with an obvious bug like this.
Richard A. Landkamer
"Vanguardx" <see_signature> wrote in message news:envMIRVkEHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com>
> wrote in news:uU3FUIUkEHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:
>> I have been telling people here the same thing for a year! (-:
>>
>> But, many are cheap and don't want to pay $19.95 for an excellent
>> product!
>
> Yeah, amazing. Same for shareware that the users continue to use way
> past the trial period. They use something like IE SP-2's popup blocker
> or the ones in the freebie Google or Yahoo toolbars and wonder:
>
> - Why they cannot block Flash content, or replay it after it was
> blocked.
> - How to replay that last blocked popup (since a refresh of the next
> page won't show it as it was initiated from the prior page).
> - How to list what all got blocked by the popup blocker, whether as a
> list of URLs or in the form of statistics.
> - How to bypass the useless warning dialogs.
> - How to disable script timers or mouse tricks without totally disabling
> scripting.
> - How to whitelist some sites to popups are allowed (and without having
> to resort to trusting them in the Trusted Sites security zone, if their
> popup blocker even honors the Trusted Sites security zone).
> - How to get rid of those pesky Geocities ad-squares or InVue ads.
> - How to prevent changes to their home page (from unsolicited/unclicked
> dialogs).
> - How long to leave the popup on the screen before automatically closing
> it (so you can choose between almost immediate to long enough to let you
> know what might've been in it but still get it out of the way).
> - What was it that it all blocked on that page.
> - Disable or just warn on the use of meta-refresh.
> - How to, in general, allow popups on a domain (by whitelisting it) but
> still block some popups that appear (like farking surveys).
> - What additional product they need for cookie management.
> - What other product they need to clean up after closing the browser
> (history, recent doc list, temp files [which IE's option is flaky to
> perform], favicons, and typed URLs).
> - Why do I need a separate cookie manager and all these other tools
> constantly running when the only time their use is applicable is when
> the browser is loaded?
>
> It's pretty handy to have a whole bunch of features rolled into one
> product which unfortunately sounds by its name as though all it handles
> is popups. Guess we're getting to sound too much like "affiliates"
> spamming the product here. :-o
>
> I remember testing over a dozen different popup blockers and chose this
> one but didn't buy it until near the end of its trial period since I had
> lots of questions to ask and found the author very responsive. I
> remember having to work on the Links toolbar working for javascripted
> shortcuts (to allow them since YOU have to click on them). However, if
> blocking only some of the popups is good enough and you don't want all
> the extras in PopUp Cop and prefer a simpler and less featured product
> (mostly because you don't want to invest the time to figure out what a
> more powerful product will do so you know how to tailor it to your needs
> mostly because you prefer not to take the time to define your needs)
> then PopUp Cop would be overkill. I'm sure there are lots of users out
> there that think the Windows XP firewall (SP-1 or SP-2 versions) is good
> enough for them, or an anti-virus product shown in independent testing
> to catch only 87% to 95% of real in-the-wild viruses is good enough.
> And not everyone wants to devote the time and effort in trialing several
> similar products and then restore a disk image (to wipe out all
> pollution gets left by uninstalls) to then decide and install the one
> that they liked best. Some just want a quick, easy, and weak solution.
> It's hard to beat free if all you want is bare minimal functionality and
> are willing to endure irregular results.
>
> If anyone comes up with a better popup blocker that also incorporates
> all the other functions of PopUp Cop, or more, and at that price then
> I'll surely go check it out. Unfortunately popup blockers don't get the
> same level of *independent* review and testing as do anti-virus,
> anti-spam, and anti-spyware products. They're just not as glitzy or
> cause overall as much trouble as viruses and malware. It would be handy
> if even Edensoft came up with their "compare us to them" web page. From
> my communications with the author, he seems the type that would even
> point out any deficiencies of his product when compared to others.
>
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