Re: Big hole??
From: Testy (fraudbuster_at_canoemail.com)
Date: 09/19/04
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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 08:45:03 -0400
Typical knee-jerk reaction here. You know "shoot the messenger"
Testy
"Jeff" <jeff@phony.com> wrote in message
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> I'm no expert, but it seems to me all the responses here seem to be
> attacking the sender instead of refuting the facts of what he is claiming.
> Not helpful to the rest of us.
>
> --
>
> Jeff Williams
> Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
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>
>
> "Jone Doe" <fake@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> *sniff* I smell a troll.
> "User1" <user1@msn.net> wrote in message
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> Ya - I do. What's the point?
> "OMG!!" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:15a201c49dfa$5d3696e0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Uh, do you run a firewall? If so then what are ya worried
> about. Have your provider ping you, if they see a
> firewall then even they can't get in, that plus the added
> protection from Microsoft kinda makes you pretty
> invulnerable
>>-----Original Message-----
>>"Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security
> Technologies helps you protect your PC against viruses,
> hackers, and worms." - this is how Microsoft promotes its
> Service Pack 2 on its website. What the company does not
> say: Instead of viruses, worms, and hackers, the
> supposedly safe SP2 for Windows XP invites any Internet
> user to have a look around your PC.
>>
>>
>>
>>As soon as you install SP2 on a Windows XP PC with a
> certain configuration, your file and printer sharing data
> are visible worldwide, despite an activated Firewall.
> This also applies to all other services. The PC only has
> to provide sharing for an internal local network and
> connect to the Internet via dial-up or ISDN. Users of DSL
> services are also affected, if a firewall is not
> integrated into the DSL modem or a common modem instead
> of a DSL router is used. Additionally, Internet
> Connection Sharing of the PC has to be disabled.
>>
>>
>>
>>A number of test scans run by PC-Welt revealed that this
> in fact is a common configuration and not a rare sight.
> Without great effort, we were able to discover private
> documents on easily accessible computers on the Internet.
> It must be assumed, that these users wrongly believe they
> are safe and that their sharing configurations are only
> visible in their network at home: Often, we did not even
> encounter password protection.
>>
>>
>>Already Windows 95 affected by a similar problem
>>
>>
>>Experienced Windows users may remember that there was a
> similar problem in the past, specifically with Windows
> 95. Back then, Microsoft forgot to separate file and
> printer sharing from the dial-up network adapter when
> such a connection was configured.
>>
>>
>>
>>In other words, this caused the service to be released
> worldwide through the dial-up connection as soon as you
> were connected to the Internet. Microsoft at that time
> issued an update to patch the bug. The fact that file and
> printer sharing since then is not connected to the dial-
> up connection anymore, can easily be seen on your system:
> Right-click on the symbol "My Network Places" and
> select "Properties". Repeat the right-click and selection
> with the icon of your dial-up connection and select the
> tab "Settings". If there is no check at "File and Printer
> Sharing", it indicates that this service should not be
> made available through your dial-up connection.
>>
>>
>>
>>This in fact is true for Windows XP without Service
> Pack. Since SP1, this configuration is hardly more than
> cosmetics and does not serve any purpose anymore. This
> means, the file and printer sharing service is connected
> in general, also to the dial-up network adapter. This in
> itself is a serious bug, since your shared data
> potentially could be seen on the Internet. However, there
> are no catastrophic effects, as every dial-up connection
> is configured with an activated firewall by default.
>>
>>
>>
>>If you intended to deactivate this firewall, Windows
> displayed an easily recognizable dialog, that this choice
> would allow access to your computer. Despite the bug in
> SP1, the configuration of the firewall was worked out in
> a clean way: You were able to run the dial-up connection
> with a firewall and the internal network card without,
> because the latter was supposed to enable access through
> the Windows network.
>>
>>
>>SP1 + SP2 leads to a catastrophic error
>>
>>
>>Due to the bug carried over from SP1 as well as a new
> bug, the firewall configuration with SP2 has a
> catastrophic effect. The SP2 installation simply uses the
> previous configuration of the firewall: If it was active
> for the dial-up connection, now it also has been
> activated for the network adapter.
>>
>>
>>
>>At the same time, an exception is determined for file
> and printer sharing: For the internal network card - and
> astonishingly also for all adapters.
>>
>>
>>
>>With the first use of the dial-up connection after
> installing SP2, all of your shared data are available on
> the Internet. Now, other users can start guessing your
> passwords for administrator and guest and you basically
> are no more secure than the first Windows 95 users with
> an Internet connection - thanks to Service Pack 2.
>>
>>
>>How to correct the problem
>>
>>
>>It is not advisable to keep this defective default
> configuration. However, the previous environment cannot
> be restored: The configuration for the firewall was
> changed, which does not allow the setting of active or
> inactive conditions or exceptions for each network
> adapter anymore. Now this only works for network areas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Choose "Windows Firewall" in the in the Windows Control
> Panel and the there the tab "Exceptions". Select "File
> and Print Services" and click on "Edit". Now you can see
> four ports which are used by the file and print sharing
> service.
>>
>>
>>
>>To lock the service to the outside and keep it open for
> the internal LAN, you have to individually select and
> change its area with the respective button. Our reader
> Yves Jerschov notified us of another bug: The value for
> the area set by default "Only for own network (Subnet)"
> only works, if the Internet Connection Sharing is
> activated. If this is not the case, your shared data are
> visible worldwide. This error can be corrected by
> choosing "User defined List" and entering the IP
> addresses that are supposed to have access - the IP
> addresses of your LAN. A whole range of an IP area can be
> entered as "192.168.x.0/255.255.255.0", if the respective
> addresses start with 192.168.x.
>>
>>
>>
>>After these measures, you can be sure to be as safe as
> you were with SP1. Great, don't you think?
>>
>
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