Re: Loaded SP2 now I'm in a boot loop...Things to try.

From: Dave (Dave_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 09/16/04


Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:05:03 -0700

Chad,
Tried the dos commands:
cd $NtServicePackUninstall$\Spuninst
batch spuninst.txt
exit

When it rebooted and I had a choice of safe and all other types of boot
everything went to a black screen with no activity except for the safe boot
that froze loading drivers in the dos screen. Any other suggestions?

"Chad Harris" wrote:

> Guy with late homework--
>
> See if a UMAX driver could be the problem via this KB:
>
> After you install Windows XP Service Pack 2, your computer restarts
> continuously
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;873161&Product=winxp
>
> Over-heating, and a bad stick of RAM have been known to cause this--so if
> software remedies don't do it, look to hardware, memory sticks in place,
> cables, ect.
>
> *Often, booting to the Recovery Console and running chkdsk /r will help this
> problem.* I don't know if you have an XP CD, because lately so many people
> with boot problems have not had one supplied by their OEM, but if you do
> this would be my first choice to try to ditch the endless loop this way.
>
> Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058
>
> Scroll down for instructions on running chkdsk /r.
>
> Using the Recovery Console
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prmc_str_bjid.asp
>
> RC Overview
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_console_overview.mspx
>
> Recovery Console in XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_rec.htm
>
> I didn't know if you could break the loop to F8 as Will says. In my
> experience, Last Known Good Configuration almost never works statistically,
> but if it does and this is gone, more power to you. Keep in mind that it's
> a snapshot of your configuration immediately after you booted, so if you
> have been booted up for a long time then you're not going to track settings
> changes since that time.
>
> I'd first try to F8 to the Windows Advanced Options menu and use Safe Mode
> and then try System Restore from Safe Mode. You will probably be back at
> the version before you installed SP2. There is also this option for aborted
> SP2 installs or SP2 installs with the problem like the one you're having,
> but again System Restore may not solve your endless loop problem and Last
> Known Good may not. You may need to run a chkdsk /r or use some of the
> other tools I describe.
>
> Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP (Info on F8 and
> Advanced Options Menu)
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=308041
>
> How to use the Automatic Recovery feature to recover your computer if the
> Windows XP Service Pack 2 Setup program is not completed successfully
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=875355&product=windowsxpsp2
>
> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=315222
>
> If you were unable to use the Recovery Console because you had no XP CD, and
> haven't installed it already but could get back to Windows:
>
> If you can tap F8 to get back to Windows via either Safe Mode or as a last
> resort in my opinion, Last Known Good Configuration, then you're still faced
> with the possible "endless loop problem." That's why my first suggestion
> was to boot to the Recovery Console and run chkdsk /r from the recovery
> console.
>
> You would be possibly faced with the endless loop proble again or when you
> installed SP2 so I would run chkdsk /r from the command prompt or the run
> box.
>
> The reason for the endless loop is often that something has set the volume's
> "dirty bit." When a volume's dirty bit is set, autochk automatically checks
> the volume for errors the next time the computer is restarted.If a volume's
> dirty bit is set, this indicates that the file system may be in an
> inconsistent state. The dirty bit can be set because the volume is online
> and has outstanding changes, because changes were made to the volume and the
> computer shutdown before the changes were committed to disk, or because
> corruption was detected on the volume. If the dirty bit is set when the
> computer restarts, chkdsk runs to verify the consistency of the volume.
>
> See if you have any disk corrpution by typing "fsutil dirty query [C]: Sub
> any drive you want for "C". If it says the volume isn't dirty, you don't
> need to run chkdsk because there aren't any errors on the disk. But I know
> you want to run it to see that it runs properly without this read-only
> error. The KB I'm going to list advises you to run "chkdsk volume_label: /v
> /f" to fix this. This will fix any errors on the disk and the "v" causes it
> to name each fixed file. Hopefully that will resolve it.
> But if it doesn't then run "chkdsk_volume label: /r", and if that doesn't
> then run the chkdsk /r from the recovery console.
>
>
> If the disk is dirty, then System Restore is not going to fix that.
>
> Every time Windows XP starts, Autochk.exe is called by the Kernel to scan
> all volumes to check if the volume dirty bit is set. If the dirty bit is
> set, autochk performs an immediate chkdsk /f on that volume. Chkdsk /f
> verifies file system integrity and attempts to fix any problems with the
> volume.
>
> Here's what to do:
>
> Go to Start/Run/CMD and type in: fsutil dirty query c: (or whatever drive
> his XP is on). You'll get back either the drive "is dirty" or "it's not
> dirty."
>
> Info on a "Fsutil Query" in the KB below--also see the Explanation at
> Windows Help and Support--type "helpctr" into your run box:
>
> The Fsutil Query Tool:
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5138-6240-728908.html
>
> An Fsutil Query Does Not Work Properly on FAT or FAT32 Volumes
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;322275&Product=winxp
>
> You have 4 choices that may work:
>
> 1) You can run chkdsk /r from the Recovery Console. I think this is the
> fastest and most effective. I've seen it work for this several times.
>
> 2) You can run the chkntfs /d and reboot and chkdsk won't run on the next
> boot. What this does is to restore default settings. Note this is a
> different command than chkdsk. Chkntfs is a command that displays or
> specifies whether automatic checking is schduled to run on a FAT, FAT32, or
> NTFS volume when the computer is started.
>
> 3) You should be able to fix this by using "chkntfs/X C" if C were the
> problem drive or whatever letter--this works when the drive is dirty and I
> showed you above how to verify this. The advantage of sticking the X in the
> command is that it saves time by causing the command to skip checking cycles
> within the folder.
>
> 4) You can go to Kelly's XP Tweaks and click line 76 left column and see if
> this VB script will stop it.
>
> Kelly's Tweaks
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
> In addition, When there is improper shutdown, the Autochk program runs on
> all NTFS drives in XP, 2K, NT where a disk write was in process at the time
> of shutdown. This gets exacerbated if you have write caching enabled on a
> hard drive connected to a standard IDE controller. It improves performance,
> by delaying data writing while other work is done, but it ups the risk of
> lost data or corruption.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prdh_dmt_cgwi.asp
>
> Open the run box with the Windows Key + "r" and type in diskmgmt.msc. From
> the graphical display in the bottom of the Disk Management window,
> right-click the disc icon and chooose Properties. On the policies tab, clear
> Enable Write Caching on the Disk. (Note this option, ie. the policies tab,
> may not be available if your disk is connected to a High Performance ATA-66
> or ATA-100 IDE controller.)
>
> After you find the cause of the underlying problem if there is improper
> shutdown, re-enable write caching.
>
> Additional references for definitions context:
>
> Chkdsk.exe or Autochk.exe starts when you try to shut down or restart your
> computer
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;831426&Product=winxp
>
> An Fsutil Query Does Not Work Properly on FAT or FAT32 Volumes
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;322275&Product=winxp
>
> hth,
>
> Chad Harris
> ______________________
>
> "Guy with late home work" <Guy with late home
> work@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4E8FB6DE-03B8-45DE-B9D5-4E80AE7A723E@microsoft.com...
> While rebooting from loading SP2 I get the error message, "Autochk not
> found-skipping autocheck program", then it reboots and goes through the same
> routine indefinitely! HELP
>
>
>



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