Re: SP2
From: Different Jeff (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 09/14/04
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:33:48 -0700
Hi Jeff,
Before you installed SP2, did you properly prepare your
computer for the update? Most user`s problems are from
not properly preparing and not properly installing the
Update. Many of the MVP`s have given links to sites to
help users prepare their computers.
I have installed it on two of my personal computers and
have had no problems with any of the programs installed on
it. I have also installed it on over 50 production
machines at work and have 26 to go, all of them are
working fine. As long as your system has been properly
prepared, 99% of the updates has no problem.
Jeff
>-----Original Message-----
>Jack;
>The venders don't have to do anything.
>Who said they did?
>It is their choice to leave their software poorly written
as is
>sometimes the case.
>Everyone wants Microsoft to write more secure code.
>But now that it is happening, you say "WHY".
>The answer has been given many times and you have not
seen it.
>
>"I'll say it again!! The upgrade should not render
anything useless
>that was working just fine under the OS that was
upgraded!"
>If it was bad code which is sometimes the case, it is NOT
working fine
>even though it appears to work fine.
>
>If the venders want to support Windows XP SP-2, they need
to change
>their code if that is the issue.
>If not, then they do not have to.
>They can explain to their customers why their software no
longer works
>with code enhancements that many have been demanding for
a long time.
>Or they can ignore their customers as the industry moves
toward more
>security.
>
>You really have a few options and Microsoft making SP-2
work with
>everything even if SP-1 worked is unreasonable and
impossible because:
>How many Windows XP computers in the world?
>Then realize no two are identical.
>How can code especially something as extensive as a
Service Pack be
>assured to work with all?
>Options:
>Do nothing and keep your computer as it is.
>Do what is necessary to get your hardware and software
compliant with
>SP-2.
>Go to another operating system, there are several options
that do not
>include Microsoft.
>
>Anything you want that requires changes in SP-2 will not
happen,
>unless you consider the patches that may be released.
>But SP-2 is still there as SP-2.
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
>
>
>"Jack" <Jack@abc.net> wrote in message
>news:uGSCryfmEHA.3372@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> And WHY should any vendor have to change their products
so as to
>> comply with
>> a SP? Even though I disagree with it happening even
then, I can
>> understand
>> why it happens for a totally new OS. But requiring
vendors to
>> subscribe to
>> compliance with a upgrade to an existing OS is dead
wrong.
>>
>> I'll say it again!! The upgrade should not render
anything useless
>> that was
>> working just fine under the OS that was upgraded! If
it does, the
>> upgrade
>> is to fault - not the vendor item!
>>
>> The absolute, unchecked, monopolistic arrogance of
Microsoft is
>> being
>> displayed on this one - in spades!
>>
>>
>> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <ronv@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23B$DB0emEHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Jack wrote:
>>> > You may be told that some, or even many, of your
hardware and/or
>>> > software items may not be compatible with SP2. That
may well be.
>>> >
>>> > However, if MS is going to release a service pack to
an operating
>>> > system it ought NOT to render any item, software
and/or hardware,
>>> > that is/was usable pre sp install, unusable. And
that includes
>>> > any
>>> > item installed under the 'Compatibility Mode'!
>>> >
>>> > Over the years I have installed nearly every
upgrade, patch,
>>> > security
>>> > item and service pack that MS has offered -
including XP sp1 and
>>> > every security item since.
>>> >
>>> > I've NEVER had so much as a burp caused by any of
them. IMO MS
>>> > screwed the pooch on this one!! There appears to be
WAY too many
>>> > hardware/software/personal settings and
configurations/internet
>>> > connection methods/ etc for them to be able to
release a sp that
>>> > only
>>> > works with some of them - and that is what they have
done!
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Even Microsoft, with all of it's resources could not
possibly test
>>> every
>>> software application, much less every possible
combination of
>>> hardware
>>> drivers, software and other peripherals that are
available. The
>>> makers of
>>> the software who advertise that their product is
compatible with XP
>>> or XP
>>> SP1 must bear some of the responsibility for the
problems that
>>> occur. Many
>>> have been dragging their feet and waiting until the
last minute on
>>> this
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> These vendors and developers are given an abundant
amount of time
>>> and free
>>> resources to test their applications prior to the
launch of any
>>> major
>>> upgrade for any MS operating system.
>>>
>>> Also, in many of these cases, SP2 is doing the job it
was intended
>>> to do
>> by
>>> securing systems that were very unsecure, prior to the
>>> installation.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ronnie Vernon
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>
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