Re: I think I wil wait on sp2
From: Jupiter Jones [MVP] (jones_jupiter_at_hotnomail.com)
Date: 09/13/04
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:12:50 -0600
Jack;
1. Windows is a Microsoft product.
However the hardware and much of the software usually is not Microsoft
and thus beyond Microsoft's control.
Who's problem? That depends, some current software and hardware is
poorly written taking advantage of some of the weaknesses in windows.
Microsoft has fixed some of those and now poorly written code can not
handle the more secure Windows.
Clearly a 3rd party problem.
They and not Microsoft need to take care of it.
Some choose not to sometimes because the product is to old for them to
expend resources.
Microsoft has a amount of information on this subject alone and you
have seen much of it, do you apply it?
2. "Why, pray tell, do we need to have our systems compatible to the
service pack"
I would have thought the answer is obvious.
If something is not compatible it may not work.
As for your scenario, you left out at least as much important
information as you put in.
What is the source of the problem?
Are there updates available?
Were drivers reinstalled?
Does everyone, some or very few experience the problem?
The fact the problem showed itself upon installation of SP-2 may tell
a little but is not necessarily relevant.
That is why if there are problems YOU need to do the appropriate
research co check compatibility of YOUR system.
After all it is YOUR computer.
"If my OS (XP) is perfectly happy with my hardware/software
configuartion, is functioning justfine and then the SP renders part or
all of the system unusable guesswho/what is going to be left standing
when the music stops . . . - YEP the SP!"
Are you sure? I thought it was your computer!
Now you have a choice, leave it to the SP, or research to determine
the cause and regain the full use of your computer.
It may be the Service Pack or it may be something else.
Since it is YOUR computer, YOU need to make the determination and
follow the course of action YOU CHOOSE.
I am not as much "pro SP" as much as I am pro secure computing and
Jack should know that by now.
As long as you keep that line of thinking instead you may never
understand.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "Jack" <Jack@abc.net> wrote in message news:exso2IdmEHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > Allow me a quote from you, and from the message you reply to: > > <Quote> Very few existing issues are Microsoft problems.</Quote> > <Quote> While waiting you also need to research your specific > hardware and > software for SP-2 compatibility issues: Quote> > > 1 - If we are installing a Microsoft patch (SP) to a Microsoft > product > (XP -IE) just who's problem is it? > > 2 - Why, pray tell, do we need to have our systems compatible to the > service > pack. If they are compatible with our current version of XP then > the SP > damx well should be compatible with our system! > > Scenario/metaphor: (The item could be ANY device and/or software - > I'll use > a printer) > I have a 6 month old, near top of the line, computer. I install a > new, well > known mfg.'s, printer. I go to the windows update and it tells me > there are > no newer drivers for it. NOW, 6 months later, I install SP2 and, > say, my > printer malfunctions upon installing SP2. What you, and some > others, are > trying to have us believe is that the problem is with our computer > and or > printer. I, strongly, suggest the problem is with the SP! If my OS > (XP) is > perfectly happy with my hardware/software configuartion, is > functioning just > fine and then the SP renders part or all of the system unusable > guess > who/what is going to be left standing when the music stops . . > . - YEP > the SP! > > The arguments I hear being made on the pro SP side of this issue are > STRONG > evidence that we need a standalone, unbundled, unintigrated > operating > system! > > > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message > news:e3%23VPxcmEHA.1904@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Patches will most likely come out, at least one has been out for >> several weeks. >> But is people want to install SP-2 later after having problems nom, >> they MUST research since most issues already have a resolution >> either >> through a simple reconfiguration or an update from manufacturer. >> Very few existing issues are Microsoft problems. >> >> -- >> Jupiter Jones [MVP] >> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ >> >> >> "Wislu Plethora" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> message news:162201c499c7$66d89c70$a501280a@phx.gbl... >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>It is OK to wait, but to wait until "they fix it first" >> > would be a >> >>waste of time. >> >>The SP-2 of today will be the same as SP-2 of next year. >> >> >> >>While waiting you also need to research your specific >> > hardware and >> >>software for SP-2 compatibility issues: >> >>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm >> >> >> >>When ready, follow the Service Pack Installation >> > Checklist. >> >>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Jupiter Jones [MVP] >> >>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Which is not to say that there won't be patches >> > forthcoming, which patches could fix problems that might >> > be keeping people from installing to begin with. >> >> > >
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