Re: microsoft acknowledges problems with update

From: PA Bear (PABear_at_mvps.org)
Date: 08/02/04


Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 19:12:06 -0400

The critical updates may have addressed a pre-exisiting vulnerability on
your system, Jeff. IOW you didn't have any problems until the update(s)
blocked the malware from functioning.

Post your HT log to one of the recommended forums.

-- 
~PA Bear
Jeff wrote:
> I've used both Ad-aware and Spybot regularly for years, with regular
> updates, including of course after the disaster.  They found nothing.  I
> also have uptodate anti-virus software and the Zone Alarm firewall.  All
> regularly and conscientiously updated.
>
> I am not familiar with CWShredder but will add it to my armamentarium,
> though of course my system is now fixed.
>
> You are correct though, it was right after the July 13 updates that my
> problems started.  Because the July 13 critical updates included a
> "cumulative IE update", I assumed it was the same cumulative IE update.
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> I will look into all the sites you suggested. I do have Hijack this, but
> do not use it because it requires more knowledge than I have to not
> delete good stuff too.
>
> Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.  However my problems started
> immediately after the critical upgrades.
>
>
> "PA Bear" <PABear@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:e0HNqYMeEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> The MS page to which you refer covers MS04-025 (AKA 867801), released 30
>> Jul-04, not MS04-018 (AKA 823353).
>>
>> MS04-018 (823353) was released with several other updates on 13 Jul-04,
>> any of which may have caused you problems:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-jul.mspx
>>
>> However, I suspect "hijackware" is the cause of your IE problems, Jeff.
>> Check your system for "hijackware":
>>
>> Help with Hijackware
>> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>>      http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm
>>
>> CoolWebSearch Chronicles
>> http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html
>>
>> Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
>> background:
>>
>> 1. CWShredder (fix all found)
>>
>> 2. Ad-Aware (fix all found)
>>
>> 3. Spybot (RTFM but generally fix everything in red)
>>
>> Important: You *must* seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before
>> each and every use, even "right out of the box".  But even they can't
>> catch everything, 24/7.  When all else fails, HijackThis
>> (http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe) is the
>> preferred tool to use.  It will help you to both identify and remove any
>> hijackware/spyware.  **Post your files to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
>> or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not
>> here.**
>>
>> [Alternate download pages for many of the above tools may be found at
>> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.]
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> 1. Download and run Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/); then...
>>
>> 2. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files
>>
> (http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339)
>> and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode
>>
> (http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406)
>> with nothing else running in background.  Note the files identified and
>> removed then find the corresponding page for the file at your AV maker's
>> online support pages (e.g.,
>>
> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.winfavorites.html)
>> and follow all Removal steps.
>>
>> WinXP Only (WinME similar): If this scan finds anything, create a new
>> Restore Point then Disk Cleanup > More options > Delete all but the most
>> recent Restore Point.
>>
>> 3. Check in at Windows Update.
>>
>> So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
>> http://boards.cexx.org/viewtopic.php?t=957
>> --
>> HTH - Please Reply to This Thread
>>
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP
>>
>> AumHa Forums
>> http://forum.aumha.org
>>
>> What You Should Know About Spyware
>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx
>>
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> Finally!
>>>
>>> Ever since I downloaded the Windows XP critical update "Cumulative
>>> Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1 (KB823353)", my IE6 has been
>>> unable to find URLs and the whole system crashes intermittently.  I was
>>> only able to reuse the PC and IE6 to view websites after I restored the
>>> entire system partition from a backup done before that update.  I asked
>>> for advice from the Windows XP, the IE6 newslist and although some other
>>> users wrote about similar problems, I mainly got answers from the
>>> experts that the patch installed fine and everything should be just
>>> fine and I should check for viruses, etc..  Finally, when viewing the
>>> "Read more ...." for this update on the MS update screen, I now see
>>> that MS acknowledges the problem and the version you now find when you
>>> click on the Windows update is apparently a new one dated August 1.
>>> (You only find this by reading the hidden details in the "Read more"
>>> section).
>>>
>>> Here is what MS writes:
>>>
>>> "Caveats: Subsequent to the release of this security bulletin, Microsoft
>>> was made aware that the update provided for Windows XP customers running
>>> the new version of Windows Update, Windows Update Version 5, did not
>>> contain the final release code for the vulnerabilities addressed in the
>>> security bulletin. Microsoft has corrected the update and is
>>> re-releasing this bulletin to advise of the availability of a revised
>>> update available to Windows Update Version 5 customers. Customers who
>>> are utilizing Windows Update Version 4, the vast majority of customers,
>>> are not affected by this revision."
>>>
>>> I have to admit I have yet to have the courage to install this revised
>>> critical update <grin>.  I'll make sure I have full partition backups
>>> before I do it again. Using my Windows XP restore function was not
>>> successful in removing the damage from that update. 


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