Re: Can I set up dual boot this way
From: Rick \ (rick_at_mvps.org)
Date: 08/22/04
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:05:26 -0400
Hi GTT,
> OK heres what I want to do.
Good, let's get right to the meat of it.
> Add a second hard drive to my system and on that drive install Win xp
> as a clean install.
> Will then have say C: with win 98se (this also partitioned with a d:
> section} and a new drive E with xp.
Yep, easy enough to do. More on this below.
> Heres what I hope can be done after that is done.
>
> Boot to whichever drive I want and use that without interference from
> the other os, not sure I would get any problems anyway.
Again, very possible, and Win98 and WinXP on the same system coexist just
fine without interfering with each other.
> Be able to see the other drive and access data if using 98se or winxp,
> I realize programs on each system will only run with the os on the
> drive they are set up on.
Ok, the key here is that you cannot use NTFS for WinXP, you will have to
stick with FAT32. If the drive you install is larger than 32GB, then you
will need to use fdisk for Win98 to partition it, then format. You will not
be able to do this with the WinXP drive tools, though WinXP will be able to
use the large FAT32 partition just fine.
You are also correct about the programs.
> Have all my hardware work regardless of which system was booted, I
> have an ATI AIW card and I assume new drivers would need to be loaded
> on the new drive, same for the integrated motherboard sound card.
> Hopefully plug and play would get these items and set them up
> seperately
This will depend on the hardware manufacturer. Either the bits of hardware
are on the compatibility list, or there are drivers available from the
manufacturer. Here is the WindowsXP HCL:
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/whql/hcl/winxphclx86.txt
> Have a seperate registry for each system on each hard drive so if I
> wanted to take the hard drive out and instal it in a new computer it
> would simply work the same as if I did that now with my present drive.
Each will have its own registry, however the boot loader will be shared on
the C: drive. To move the XP drive to another machine and have it run would
require a repair installation at the very least. Two reasons: (1) Your boot
files will not exist on this drive, and the ones on C: would be pointing to
wrong or invalid locations if copied over, and (2) WinXP's system files
would need to be rebuilt to match the changed hardware.
> If I should be able to accomplish the above what is the best way to
> load XP.
Connect the drive, partition and format with fdisk as mentioned above. Boot
into Win98, insert the WinXP CD and run setup. Choose a new installation
from the menu, then direct the install to the new drive. Allow setup to
proceed, it will create the dual boot for you.
> Would I start the computer with 98se and then allow the xp cd to auto
> load or what?
Yep, see above.
> I'm thinking that if I was to request a clean install versus an
> upgrade it might overwrite my 98se. How do I make sure xp gets loaded
> on the E drive.
See above.
> I would actually prefer to use NTFS for the new drive and thought that
> I would still be able to read the data files. I had read somewhere
> that if one computer on a network had NTFS and another Fat 32 then you
> could still see and deal with data files between the 2 computers. Is
> this correct or should I make the new drive fat 32 and convert to NTFS
> later
On a network, the files are read by the host machine, not the machine
accessing the data. This is why you can access servers on the internet
running a Windows Server OS on NTFS, a Linux Server on ext2. or any other
server regardless of what file system it is using. On a local machine, file
reading is dependent on the operating system that is running. As mentioned
before, you will need to run WinXP in FAT32, not NTFS for the Win98 system
to read the files on the WinXP system. An alternative is to create a shared
FAT32 partition for data and program installations. Then you can run WinXP
in NTFS on its own partition. Simply create the shared partition with fdisk,
but leave some free space on the drive for WinXP to create its own partition
during setup.
> What Boot manager can someone recommend I was thinking of getting
> Partition Magic. I think it will allow operation of different os. Are
> there any decent freeware boot managers out there?
Decent and freeware are two words that rarely go together, I can only think
of a handful of instances. You do not need a Boot Manager or partitioning
software to do what you are asking, it can be done with the native tools
included with Win98 and WinXP. If you really want to use one, here are a
few:
BootIT NG www.terabyteunlimited.com
Partition Magic www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic
Partition Commander http://www.v-com.com/product/pc_ind.html
Ranish Partition Manager http://www.ranish.com/part/
Personally, I use and recommend the first one, but it is for the more
technically literate. Partition Magic is the most expensive, but probably
the easiest to use. The last one is freeware, but is for the real technical
types.
> Anybody know of a real good site that walks you through setting up a
> dual boot. Did a quick gogle and wasn't impressed with what I found.
Hopefully, I've just given you enough information to do so.
-- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
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