Re: XP SP2 ntfs.sys question

From: Dick Kistler (dickkist_at_nospam-hotmail.com)
Date: 08/19/04 

Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:25:43 -0400

"Pete" <pbatterton@NOSPAMcoastalwave.net> wrote in message
news:41252cb1$1_2@nntp2.nac.net...
> Sorry, but system and/or ntfs.sys didn't crash until start-up. What
> happend
> during startup/boot with original my XP, I got a STOP x:24 in ntfs.sys. I
> was screwed. My system volume was ntfs, and I could not boot even the
> Recovery Console or Setup because they require ntfs.sys to load. When
> ntfs.sys loads, it found a problem with the volume, STOPed and the system
> was dead! That was the reason for my question, has this been fixed so you
> can boot to the Recovery Console even when your system ntfs volume is
> broken?

I don't understand why the install CD would not boot on its own and let you
do
a repair or reinstall. It shouldn't need anything on the HD.

>
> BTW, I have no idea why this happened. Usually you would expect hardware
> to
> be the cause of the problem. However, running a full suite of diagnostics
> on the HD, controller, processor and memory resulted in all passing with
> no
> errors. Since reformatting the HD system volume as FAT32 and
> re-installing
> XP, I have had ZERO problems. I would switch back to ntfs if I thought I
> could recover. I like the secruity features ntfs offers, but not if I
> loose
> the volume after some random interval of time.

Cosmic rays probably. Sounds to me like ntfs.sys was corrupt in some way.
You just need a floppy or CD recovery disk. There is a commercial dos
program called ntfsdos that will let you read ntfs from dos. BartPE should
work also, that's what its designed for.

>
>
> "Greg Hayes/Raxco Software" <ghayesntloader@raxco.com> wrote in message
> news:u$hJzXjhEHA.3076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Pete,
>>
>> NTFS.sys isn't known for having errors :)
>>
>> I suspect that some other 3rd party file system filter driver may be the
>> actual culprit and that if you actually looked at the full memory dump
>> created by the crash you could identify that driver.
>>
>> - Greg/Raxco Software
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows File System
>>
>> Want to email me? Delete ntloader.
>>
>> "Pete" <pbatterton@NOSPAMcoastalwave.net> wrote in message
>> news:412500b4_2@nntp2.nac.net...
>> > Anyone out there know if XP's ntfs.sys has been fixed in SP2 to be more
>> > tolerant of nfts volume errors?
>> >
>> > I have abandoned ntfs after I had a ntfs.sys Stop x:024 which resulted
> in
>> my
>> > system becoming non-recoverable, meaning that my Rrecovery CD would
>> > hang
>> > rather than allow me to reach either Setup or the Recovery Console. I
> had
>> > to reformat the HD completely. MS does not provide a repair utility for
>> ntfs
>> > seperate from Chkdsk which requires ntfs.sys to run, and if ntfs.sys
>> crashes
>> > (stop x24) on the error in the ntfs volume, you are hosed.
>> >
>> > Any other thoughts??
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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