Re: lsass.exe

From: CS (nomail_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 08/15/04 

Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 22:13:24 -0500

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:22:43 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
<mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:

Tell all that to the tobacco companies who have had their butts sued
off and lost.....

>The folks at Microsoft are working towards making Windows safer "out of the
>box" (ala SP2 and the Windows Firewall turned on by default), but it is not
>the responsibility of MS to hold the hand of each and every person who buys
>it's software. One is not allowed to drive a vehicle (in most states) until
>one is "mature" enough to do so, and can demonstrate certain basic knowledge
>about "rules of the road". I believe the same should be true of owning a
>computer that one intends to connect to the internet. Ignorance is no
>excuse...nor is laziness or simply a laksidaisical attitude.
>
> Windows is truly no more prone to viruses and worms than any other
>operating system (despite what the Mac and*nix folks will tell you). It
>just happens to be instilled on 98% of the computers used in the home, and
>about 70% of the computers used in a business environment. Virus and worms
>writers attack windows because "it is there". If *nix was the predominant
>OS, or the MAC OS, then they would be the ones that would be "attacked".
>
> I challenge you to write 11 million lines of code (the approximate size
>of Windows XP), and have it work on every machine on which it is installed,
>every time, with no hitches. Once that obstacle is achieved, I would
>challenge you to make it invulnerable to hacking, viruses, worms, and such.
>It cannot be done. There are some very creative people writing malicious
>code out there.
>
> You. like so many others, want to take the easy road and hope that MS will
>take care of all of the problems that arise. It will not happen.
>
> We must all act responsibly when we connect to the internet. We cannot
>expect anyone else to do this for us. We owe it to ourselves, and everyone
>else on the 'net, to be responsible and act accordingly...exactly the same
>as we should keep our cars maintained, should not pile flammable materials
>near our stoves and heaters, etc.
>
> You can't just cop out and blame it on MS.
>
>Bobby
>
>
>"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
>news:WmzTc.95278$Np3.4578841@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>>> Greetings --
>>>
>>> I don't think it was harsh, at all.
>>>
>>> Given today's widely-publicized and well-known hostile Internet
>>> environment, only a fool or a masochist would go on-line without both a
>>> firewall and antivirus protection. People really shouldn't need to be
>>> told to use a firewall or an antivirus application, no more than they
>>> should need to be told not to stick their hands into an open flame.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Most people make the presumption that Microsoft wouldn't sell them
>> software that was unsafe to use *in the state in which Microsoft sold it*.
>> It seems to me that this is the reasonable expectation to have, in the
>> absence of other knowledge about the dangers of the Internet. Newbies
>> don't know a thing about viruses, or computer security. Neither did you,
>> or I, until at some point in our lives we learned by experience.
>>
>> My own view is that Microsoft should be criticized for selling an OS that
>> cannot be used in the condition in which it is sold. It should be safe to
>> do an install of Windows XP, and allow it to immediately connect to the
>> Internet (which it urgently seeks to do), without risking viruses and
>> trojans. It isn't safe. Windows XP must be tweaked and modified before it
>> can be made safe. It's not the fault of newbies that they don't know this.
>> Why should they?
>

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