Re: Don' t Rush to Install XP SP2
From: R. McCarty (PcEngWork-NoSpam__at_mindspring.com)
Date: 08/10/04
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:20:31 GMT
I never suggested that you "Blindly" apply an update. I don't even do
that on my own machine without a verified image. What I'm trying to
convey is that there has been a 6-month period where SP2 has been
beta tested. I've never known a case where any type of Enterprise
cannot obtain the code to test or supply feedback and suggestions. If
a company is just now obtaining SP2 for evaluation, then by all means
wait until you get that "Warm/Fuzzy" feeling.
Sometimes it just exemplifies the way Corporate America drags it's
feet, no planning or foresight. No amount of Conference room donuts
& discussions will help implement Service Packs. You need technical
people evaluating it and ensuring your operations won't be impacted
by it. The No Guts, No Glory comment wasn't directed at any IT
person, in any organization. It was directed at the Front Office staff
that can plan a golf outing, but can't understand how a Palm Pilot
hooks up.
"RJ" <jackbobNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:edMTqVwfEHA.2352@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> That is a rather ignorant attitude. If you are responsible for 10 or
> 10,000
> computers, you don't take a "no guts, no glory" attitude when installing
> *anything*.
>
> You test, test, test. And in the case of patches, you never just download
> and install.
> The first time the PCs in your business stop being able to run crtical
> apps
> because you installed an untested patch or application, and you are now
> losing
> thousands of dollars (or more) a day because of it...
> 1. You will get fired. 2. You will never do it again.
>
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:XV7Sc.19977$Jp6.19737@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Yes, I have already - The Key statement is
>>
>> "But many IT bosses have said they will hold off from installing SP2
>> and do testing on the update while watching how other early adopter firms
>> cope."
>>
>> No guts, No glory - American Management is afraid of two things
>> 1. Making a decision
>> 2. Fixing that decision, if they make a bad choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> "RJ" <jackbobNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ewRuRFwfEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Something to read:
>> >
>> > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5303632.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Pu7Sc.10089$nx2.3270@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> >> That's based on historical data. Yes, many Service Packs had to have
>> >> "Quick-Fixes" for problems not uncovered by testing. However, SP2
>> >> seems to be well behaved & thoroughly tested.
>> >>
>> >> Check the subject lines on most SP2 questions here on XP General.
>> >> A high percentage of questions on SP2 are mainly about Slipstreaming,
>> >> downloads and a few on Security Center (Symantec, behind the 8-ball).
>> >>
>> >> It's just possible that this SP may dispel some of that "Wait & See"
>> >> attitude. Currently, Only "Big Blue" can't use it, but that is because
>> >> of
>> >> their continued use of Lotus notes and other apps they should have
>> >> fixed months ago. Admitting they'll have to customize the Service Pack
>> >> for IBM use is a revealing statement about their operations. They
>> >> should go back to White Shirts & Ties and resurrect "Think".
>> >>
>> >> "RJ" <jackbobNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:etzA3yvfEHA.3192@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> > You, no doubt, will be one of the first in line to
>> >> > install SP2... all I can say is, good luck to you.
>> >> >
>> >> > Those of us with experience installing MS patchs and service packs,
>> >> > know better.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "George N. White III" <aa056@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:Pine.SGI.4.61.0408101343060.951961@montigo.bio.dfo.ca...
>> >> >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, RJ wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You might be sorry... It is always a good idea to wait a week or
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > to see what problems crop up, and there will be some. This is a
>> >> >> > MS
>> >> >> > patch,
>> >> >> > and a big patch at that. And how many times has MS had to
>> >> >> > release a
>> >> >> > "patch for the patch".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Save yourself time, aggravation, and possible system
>> >> >> > re-installation
>> >> >> > by just waiting for a while.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Meanwhile you are running the risk that one of the security issues
>> >> >> fixed by SP2 will bite -- you can be sure that certain people have
>> >> >> been studying SP2 to find hints of insecurities in unpatched
>> >> >> versions of XP.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > BTW... there is already a known issue with Norton Antivirus and
>> >> >> > SP2.
>> >> >> > Symantec
>> >> >> > is issuing an update to Norton AV on 8/10 to fix the problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Everybody but you should install XP SP2 and find the bugs so you
>> >> >> won't have to deal with them yourself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> George N. White III <aa056@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >> >> Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia, Canada
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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