Re: 'password policy' on Windows XP
From: Kelly (kelly_at_mvps.org)
Date: 07/19/04
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:00:45 -0500
Using SMS to Install Microsoft Internet Explorer 6
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/ie/6/all/reskit/en-us/part5/c24ie6rk.mspx
IE6-Sms.sms describes the setup commands that define how Internet Explorer
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the installation types and for the uninstall options.
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-- All the Best, Kelly Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award Troubleshooting Windows XP http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm "David Cook" <(unknown)> wrote in message news:ufVZKmQbEHA.2944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > My apologies to all. I have solved the mystery and I have also > tested more completely. > (1) So, I must retract the statement where I said the new tighter password > policy is happening on BOTH of my machines...one XP-Pro and the > other one being XP Home. The tight restrictions on password is > happening > ONLY on the XP Home machine. > (2) And, on this 'Win-XP Home' machine, I think that this tight-password > policy > got instituted about six months ago, back when her company (Verizon) > pointed > her to an > 'upgrade' internal website of their, to use to upgrade her Lotus Notes > from > one > older major version to a newer major version. Along with that upgrade, it > also > created an extra user-acct named 'SMSINSTALL'. Also, as a side effect, > there is also an extra 'popup dialog' box (BEFORE the welcome/login screen > asking you to select the user-acct you want to log into), that says: > Proprietary System > (with some detail verbiage about monitoring). > But, since we hadn't CREATED any new user accts since that 'SMSINSTALL' > incident, > the previously created user accts that have no such password policy have > just been > grandfathered. > > So, it's now clear to me that this system is no longer 'standard Win-XP' > as > shipped! > My apologies to for not investigating/testing more thoroughly before > posting. > > (I'd like to undo this SMSINSTALL crap and get rid of this new tight > password policy. > But, I've tried removing the SMSINSTALL acct. It removes without error, > but > as soon as > I reboot the system, this SMSINSTALL acct re-appears. Sigh, so now I > guess > I must > just live with this SMSINSTALL acct and these new restrictive rules as my > wife no longer > works there and we do not know the password for this SMSINSTALL acct. If > someone > knows how to UNDO this crap, please reply.) > > Sorry for the confusion... > > Dave > > > > "David Cook" <(unknown)> wrote in message > news:O3wPiDQbEHA.3684@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Ah, ok, I understand now that 'control userpasswords' is a cmd line. > (Sigh, >> this >> was due to ME not carefully reading what someone else wrote. So, I guess > I >> can't now vent frustration about any of you folks not > reading/understanding >> fully what >> I've been trying to say.) >> >> Ok, again the 'control userpasswords2' suggestion only PARTLY explains >> the >> mystery >> of how the rules on my system for the user password policy changed. And > it >> does >> NOT all explain how I could now allow a user to have a simple password, >> composed, let's say of >> 3-chars, all lower case, no digits needed, etc, etc. In the past, I was >> able to do that. >> Six months ago, I created user accts that could have short passwords (or >> user could >> later change their password to NO >> password), and now seemingly I can't have that functionality. >> >> This little 'control userpasswords2' dialog seems to be an interface to > that >> old 'autologin' >> registry-tweak (or something similar) which is NOT what I want. I want > ALL >> my users (in total, there are only a handful) >> to still get the screen with icons next to all the existing usernames, to >> select his and then either get logged in without entering >> a password (if he doesn't have one) or else be able to enter the password >> that he chose, without >> restrictions for minimum pwd-length and mixed case and also containing >> numeric digits, etc, etc. >> >> Stated more succinctly: I want to relax the generic RULES for what a >> password must look like, and to >> include the possibility of a user having a null password. >> >> Any other ideas? >> >> Cheers... >> >> Dave (the base noter) >> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:OWkoDYMbEHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> > Hi, >> > >> > What Kelly means is that you need to type "control userpasswords2" >> (without >> > the quotes) in the run box and click "ok" to access this standard > windows >> > user controls applet. Her other advice is to add a shortcut to it to >> > the >> > control panel. This is not a non-standard applet, it is part of > WindowsXP, >> > it just doesn't normally show in the Control Panel. >> > >> > -- >> > Best of Luck, >> > >> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ >> > Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone >> > www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone >> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org >> > >> > "David Cook" <(unknown)> wrote in message >> > news:uQ9nBVMbEHA.2408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> > > >Check your settings here: Go to Start/Run: control userpasswords2 >> > > >And uncheck: Users must enter a user name and password to use this >> > > >computer. >> > > >> > > Huh? When I go to Start -> Run, >> > > it asks me to enter a program name that I want to run. There are NO >> > > check-boxes in that dialog. >> > > >> > > > Add Control UserPasswords2 to the Control Panel (Line 1) >> > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> > > >> > > I do NOT yet want to start adding non-standard Windows software. >> > > I'm trying to solve a mystery about Windows-XP Home: In the past, I > have >> > > created NEW user accts and set them for no passwords or 3-char >> passwords, >> > > and now all of a sudden I can't. I'm hoping that someone will either >> > > CONFIRM which 'Windows Update' patch or whatever has changed >> > > that logic or else point me to the standard mechanism to use >> > > to achieve that behavior. >> > > >> > > Cheers... >> > > >> > > Dave [who is still in 'mumble-mode' over this issue] >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message >> > > news:OvF8H7JbEHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> > > > You won't have that option via Home. >> > > > >> > > > Check your settings here: Go to Start/Run: control userpasswords2 >> > > > And uncheck: Users must enter a user name and password to use this >> > > > computer. >> > > > >> > > > Tip: >> > > > >> > > > Add Control UserPasswords2 to the Control Panel (Line 1) >> > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> > > > >> > > -- >> > > > All the Best, >> > > > Kelly >> > > > >> > > > Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP >> > > > 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award >> > > > >> > > > Troubleshooting Windows XP >> > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com >> > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm >> > > > >> > > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >> > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > "David Cook" <(unknown)> wrote in message >> > > > news:O93lkFCbEHA.3692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> > > > >I have two Windows XP machines here at home, one XP Pro and >> > > > > one XP Home. All users have 'administrative' priv on their >> accounts. >> > > > > >> > > > > On both machines, it NOW seems that any NEW user accounts that >> > > > > I create MUST have passwords. Yet, my EXISTING user accounts >> > > > > either have no passwords or else have very minimal (e.g. 3-char >> > > > > passwords). >> > > > > >> > > > > Did the rules change (e.g. by some Windows Update patch) or am I >> > > > > just not seeing/finding some 'policy' admin program to control > this? >> > > > > >> > > > > (As an aside, I googled this issue and see people mentioning >> > > > > to look under >> > > > > 'Control panel, administrative tools, local security > policies,...' >> > > > > but, I don't have a choice of 'local security policies' on either > of >> > my >> > > > > two systems.) >> > > > > >> > > > > What gives? >> > > > > >> > > > > Cheers... >> > > > > >> > > > > Dave >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > >
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