Re: When utilizing "Switch User" the music "NEVER" Stops!

From: Kelly (kelly_at_mvps.org)
Date: 05/23/04


Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 01:23:47 -0500

Some very interesting and collective information! You are great
troubleshooter. :o)

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"UncleDoug" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
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Kelly,
      I have narrowed down the problem to IE and streaming
content.
      I have had a strange problem in the past. At the top
of ZA pro it has a window that shows up to 5 programs that
are running and access the internet.
    Several times I have seen programs there but Not seen
by the Task Manager, the one that occurred most often was
IE, but also some others.
   The reason I noticed IE was because In Norton
SystemWorks Pro the Web CleanUp will not run if IE is
loaded. I had closed it 5 minutes earlier that time and it
was not seen by the Task Manager had to reboot and today
the Google Deskbar had "2" icons up there earlier.
     I ran a test first with IE loaded and utilizing
Switch User, changing logons and checking the top of Zone
Alarm there was no IE icon, the switching back the icon
was there and the page was loaded.
    Next I ran several tests 4 different streaming
providers that use Media Player and Quick Time.
    All results were the same, with wsmonline.com
(eonstreams) on my side I had 2 IE icons one flashing (the
stream), wlsam.com (limelight networks), www.kcmofm.com
(adsertion), and www.kloufm.com (streamaudio) because of
the limitation of only 5 there may have been more modules
running that I could not see, I know with streamaudio
there was a ccpm_exe module.
   With Quick Time There was a Solid Q and a flashing e
for IE (as with all the other connections.)
   When I initialized Switch User, the audio stream
continued with each different logon, and checking at the
top of Zone Alarm each had a flashing e for IE and no
other programs running.
   Oh, this time when I closed IE or QuicTime the program
icon was gone from the top of ZA Pro 4-10 seconds after I
closed the program.
                              Again Thank YOU,
                              for Your time and help!
                                      ( UncleDoug )
>-----Original Message-----
>Did you read the information via the MS-KB article?
>
>-- 
>All the Best,
>Kelly
>
>Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>
>Troubleshooting Windows XP
>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
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>
>
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:fab301c43e63$984c2cf0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>Just did some more trial and error eliminations, which is
>possibly leading me back to XP-Home and my sound card
>Audigy Platinum (used the auto detect and have all the
>latest drivers).
>
>This time to insure that it was not Media Player I chose
>to play a movie trailer using the lastes QuickTime Player.
>Again the music NEVER stopped when switching users to
>logging onto the 2nd logon and then logging off and back
>again.
>
>  Next I put a music CD in my DVD drive and then my CD
>drive (both with the same results).  The music continued
>with swithch user to the user(s) logon screnn, but then
>when another user was selected the music stopped! When
>going back to the original user the music was still
>stopped. At no time did the cd eject.
>
>     I am not sure IF the music was supposed to continue
>at the user(s)logon screen, but think the hardware
>stopping with switch user logon was correct.
>
>                       Thanks Again, ( UncleDoug )
>                                     Mt.Vernon, Illinois
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi,
>>
>>This may help:
>>
>>Type 4 - program is closed when another user logs on.
>This is for programs
>>that do something intrusive, but do not need to be closed
>on return to the
>>Welcome screen.
>>
>>A typical example is a program that plays music. The
>program will continue
>>to run when the user disconnects, but will be closed when
>another user logs
>>on. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=294855
>>
>>-- 
>>All the Best,
>>Kelly
>>
>>Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>
>>Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>>Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>
>>
>>" UncleDoug " <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>in message
>>news:f77601c43df2$4facef50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>Thought I had a problem with another program, so I
>>uninstalled SpyBot, and AIM, and then cleared the
prefetch
>>folder, cleaned all caches using
sfc /scannow /purgecache,
>>Zone Alarm Pro (clear cache), and Norton SystemWorks
>>Pro,   Then I ran RegScrubXP and RegCleaner. I then
>>installed my OEM disc and ran Sfc /Scannow, I then ran
>>ipconfig /release *Con* and ipconfig /flush dns. The
other
>>program was now working?
>>   Back to "The Music "NEVER" Stops.
>>After reading your note, I tried it again, had the music
>>stream from wsmonline.com playing on my side, did
>>logoff/switch user. The music "continued" thru every
>>screen, into the logging onto another users main screen.
>>     "BUT" when I went to logoff that screen and go back
>>to my logon screen, there was NO stalls or delays it took
>>about 3-4 seconds for the secondary logon screen to
logoff
>>and go to the user icon logon screen, I then went to my
>>main logon screen, with NO stall. But again the music
>>NEVER stopped thru any of the screens ??
>>
>>     Thought about running InPlace Upgrade, but since the
>>SP2 release is just around the corner (weeks/months) I
>>will wait.
>>
>>     Speaking of SP2 the last I read it identifies if you
>>have a firewall but at that time it could not detect Zone
>>Alarm or most virus scanners like Norton.
>>     It also had a popup stopper, hope it is easier (key
>>press to allow) and allows more selectivity. I have
turned
>>OFF Privacy in Zone Alarm Pro. I listen to broadcast
>>streams and each provider is different, but most require
>>the popup for the player and sometimes it needs a cookie,
>>I would like to allow the player, but when I close the
>>player to eleminate the 2-3 popups I get after the player
>>is closed.
>>  One of the providers StreamAudio.com has several
>>stations that I've found these popups.
>>
>>           I would like to run a diagnostic or tracking
>>software, but almost all stop when you leave a logon, as
>>in Switch User.
>>
>>           I am going to visit your site next, as I have
>>another annoying problem that you probably already have a
>>fix for.
>>                           Thanks for looking into this
>>                                      Strange Problem
>>
>>                                            ( UncleDoug )
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Most interesting, Uncle Doug.  :o)  First I've heard of
>>this.  Keep us
>>>posted.
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>All the Best,
>>>Kelly
>>>
>>>Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
>>>2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award
>>>
>>>Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>
>>>Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
>>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>" UncleDoug " <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
>>in message
>>>news:ef6901c43d3f$e131ae60$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I have multiple users so "Switch User" is regularly
>>>> initiated instead of just LogOff.
>>>>  What I discovered recently was that when someone
>>>> logsoff, the music continues. When Original Switch
User
>>is
>>>> initiated, the music stays thru the logoff, blank
>>screen
>>>> and users logon screens with their icons and into the
>>next
>>>> logon, and continues even when that logon
>uses "LogOff".
>>>>
>>>>   When Switch User is initiated shouldn't all running
>>>> programs continue but drop to background, to allow the
>>>> next user to have full control of their internet
>>>> experience?
>>>>
>>>>   I noticed this first when someone was viewing music
>>>> videos with Yahoo Launch,  but I just logged onto
>>>> wsmonline.com which uses windows media player and
tried
>>>> Switching User.  The music continued thru the entire
>>>> process of changing logon screens.
>>>>
>>>>   Not sure IF Yahoo Launch uses windows media player
>but
>>>> the above problem results in system stalls. It took 3-
4
>>>> minutes for the 2nd logon screen to clear (black
>screen0
>>>> but after 30 minutes it never returned to the screen
>>with
>>>> all the user icons.  And the music continued to play.
>>>>   I think this might be memory related. Even though XP
>>>> is "supposed" to release ram, I have found the same
>>>> problem of stalls in the past.  The way I fixed it
then
>>>> was to install a program called FreeRam XPpro in
>>Documents
>>>> and Settings - All Users - Application Data, then
>>activate
>>>> it for each user.  Currently it is not installed, one
>of
>>>> the updates 3-5 months ago seemed to fix the problem
>>then.
>>>>
>>>>    I have all updates software and hardware. My system
>>is
>>>> Windows XP-Home, AMD 2.0, 512 DDR33 ram, Nvidea 4600,
>>>> Audigy Platinum. The only items I have running in the
>>>> bottom tray are Zone Alarm Pro (Privacy for cookies
and
>>>> popups are turned Off), Norton System Works 2003 (Anti
>>>> Virus scanner), SpywareGuard, and Google Deskbar. I
>also
>>>> have SpyBot Immunization activated, along with
>>>> SpywareBlaster, StartUp Monitor, all other programs
>need
>>>> to be clicked on to run, like Adaware (free version)
>>>> Weather Watcher, MSN - AIM - Yahoo messengers, etc
etc,
>>>>
>>>>      I have a hunch IF the continues music can be
>>>> controlled using Switch User, my stalls might
>disappear.
>>>>
>>>>                            Thank You,
>>>>                                        Doug Manne
>>>>                                        ( UncleDoug )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
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