Re: Some messages being lost...Looking for a tool
From: Robert Aldwinckle (robald_at_techemail.com)
Date: 05/01/04
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 13:33:54 -0400
>>> I'm looking for a tool that can set the high message number
>>> in a news group .dbx file. I started working on such a tool
>>> last year, but was sidetracked. I'd like to finish it up now.
> The problem with OE, is that I was told by Frank that MS
> servers have multiple newsgroup servers.
Jim,
There is another problem which happens occasionally with msnews
which your project (tool or just information) would be ideal for as a workaround.
Sometimes, when dealing with cross-posted messages the msnews
servers seem to get confused about which newsgroup they are preparing
a 211 reply for and thus give the highest sequence number of all of the
cross-posts. The consequence of this for the newsgroup which was thus
affected is that OE is going to wait until the real high sequence number
reaches that false high so new messages can start being detected again.
When the gap caused involves thousands of messages the practical
consequence is that the user is forced to do a Reset.
Here's a concrete example of the problem from one of my replies:
< http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=%23%24EvEtOFCHA.2624%40tkmsftngp04 >
Subject: What is happening with this newsgroup?
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:08:06 -0400
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211 "cross-post" author:aldwinckle group:microsoft.*.ie6*
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FYI
Robert Aldwinckle
--- "Jim Carlock" <anonymous@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:eYtxhdvLEHA.160@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > I managed to get Outlook Express to display the proper > version number. I reinstalled XP as an upgrade, and that > fixed the problem I had with the gpedit.msc not running. > Not sure if you knew about that one or not, but reinstalling > as an upgrade fixes it. It also forced me to do other > upgrades, and it doesn't fix all registry problems. > > The problem with OE, is that I was told by Frank that MS > servers have multiple newsgroup servers. After I post a > message, the message is put in my outbox, then in my sent > folder. If I go back to the newsgroup too quickly, the msg > might appear but won't won't be downloaded. In which > case it's the familiar lost message (as far as OE goes). I > understand that the dbx files have a high message counter > for each newsgroup. The fix would be to set the high > message counter down low enough to send a request to > gather messages after such a counter. I envision a small > problem with the idea though, that you might get duplicate > downloaded messages. > > Thanks for the link to the API stuff. I'll be spending the > rest of the evening looking over that. > > Frank indicated that Microsoft servers had a synchronization > problem whereby the servers would indicate the message was > there on the server, but in all reality, it is maybe on one server > and when OE goes to download it, instead of marking it as > something to try again later, it automatically just moves on to > the next message in the list of messages waiting to be down- > loaded. > > -- > Jim Carlock > http://www.microcosmotalk.com/ > Post replies to the newsgroup. > > > "PA Bear" <PABear@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:OqJcYQvLEHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > PS: What messages are being lost? Are you using RoadRunner's newsserver? > -- > ~PAB > > PA Bear wrote: > > [Cross-posted to WinXP General; Please continue doing so.] > > > > Outlook Express APIs were recently made available, Jimbo: > > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/outlookexpress/oe/oe_entry.asp > > > >> I'm looking for a tool that can set the high message number > >> in a news group .dbx file. > > > > Huh? (A newsgroup's DBX file only "mirrors" messages on the server.) > > > > Are you still having OE problems (cf. http://snipurl.com/62ov)? How did > > you resolve it? > > > > Jim Carlock wrote: > >> I'm looking for a tool that can set the high message number > >> in a news group .dbx file. I started working on such a tool > >> last year, but was sidetracked. I'd like to finish it up now. > >> > >> It means I'll need to start looking at the structure of the dbx > >> files and digging some more into it once again. > >> > >> Any help or suggestions is appreciated. > >
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